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Possible engine failure help

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by zkdawg, Aug 7, 2016.

  1. Aug 7, 2016 at 2:55 PM
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    2ndtaco4me

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    I had a mass airflow sensor go on a geo prism and it got progressively worse so that the car barely rolled.
     
  2. Aug 7, 2016 at 3:13 PM
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    Fog light mod, JBA LT headers, drop-in k&n filter, energy bushings, tried fold topper, 2nd air filter removed, all new stereo system minus subs, plastisol the wheels.
    What is this supposed to do?
     
  3. Aug 7, 2016 at 3:16 PM
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    Reserected from the dead.
    Nothing. Its the same as pulling the battery clamp to clear codes.
     
  4. Aug 7, 2016 at 3:24 PM
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    Actually, switching the two relays tests to see if the AF heater (o2 sensor heater) is the reason for the o2 sensor heater being out of specs. If switching the relay causes the o2 heaters to start working, then there is no need to buy new sensors to fix that fault when it is just the relay.
     
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  5. Aug 7, 2016 at 4:14 PM
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    Fog light mod, JBA LT headers, drop-in k&n filter, energy bushings, tried fold topper, 2nd air filter removed, all new stereo system minus subs, plastisol the wheels.
    I'll try that.
    Another note, I just completed the compression test and here they are w/o oil

    205. 214
    200. 204
    200. 192
    ....,...................
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    Front of truck
     
  6. Aug 7, 2016 at 4:19 PM
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    Fog light mod, JBA LT headers, drop-in k&n filter, energy bushings, tried fold topper, 2nd air filter removed, all new stereo system minus subs, plastisol the wheels.
    But what if the fog light relay is busted lol just kidding.
     
  7. Aug 7, 2016 at 4:20 PM
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    windsor

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    Test it by turning in your fog lights. Even non-mechanics can figure that one out.
     
  8. Aug 7, 2016 at 5:42 PM
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    You don't have much of a sense of humor do you. I did it and nothing changed in that department but after doing the compression test and putting everything back, I took it out for a test drive and it is back to normal.
    Don't ask, idk.
    Something must have come loose before and I inadvertently fix it while testing.

    Story short, bullet dodged.lol thank you all for your input.
     
  9. Aug 7, 2016 at 5:45 PM
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    I was being a smart ass.
    Did you leave the relays after switching them, or did you put them back in their original spots? P0031 and P0051 are for the heater circuit for the upstream o2 sensors. If both have the same fault, look at the system and not the component, in other words they aren't getting power to the heaters.
    Back to normal, does that mean running well with no CEL, or running as it was before with a CEL?
     
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  10. Aug 7, 2016 at 5:52 PM
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  11. Aug 7, 2016 at 5:53 PM
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    No one can tell that through text, no emotion.
    Just for future reference
     
  12. Aug 7, 2016 at 5:57 PM
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    I guess I got use to folks who would reply "well no shit Sherlock".
     
  13. Aug 7, 2016 at 6:00 PM
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    Valid point
     
  14. Aug 7, 2016 at 6:02 PM
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    But yeah. If you switched the relays and left them, check your fogs o make sure they still work.
     
  15. Aug 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM
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    Does anyone know if the compression I got is good?
     
  16. Aug 7, 2016 at 6:51 PM
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    Your compression seems a bit high. 145-189 with a 15psi max range between cylinders (if I remember right) is the range it should be in. That points to a restriction in the exhaust.
     
  17. Aug 7, 2016 at 7:16 PM
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    I'm sorry but I'm a red seal heavy duty mechanic and if you have had schooling and 9 years of experience you should know why he's telling you to switch relays. I'm really not trying to rain on your parade but it's really questionable if your a tech
     
  18. Aug 7, 2016 at 7:54 PM
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    Limp mode maybe?
     
  19. Aug 7, 2016 at 8:51 PM
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    Fog light mod, JBA LT headers, drop-in k&n filter, energy bushings, tried fold topper, 2nd air filter removed, all new stereo system minus subs, plastisol the wheels.
    And I suppose you know everything about every vehicle on the road because I sure as hell don't.
    I ask questions to learn.
    There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

    I know you switch to find out if one is bad, the reason I asked is because I wasn't sure if it did something more specific.
    I am not a tech, I work on cars out of my garage.
    I was buying and selling busted up vehicles and getting them back on the road and helped neighbors with repairs so they didn't get screwed by some asshole mechanic.

    Next time if you don't have something useful to say....dont
     
  20. Aug 7, 2016 at 8:55 PM
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    Fog light mod, JBA LT headers, drop-in k&n filter, energy bushings, tried fold topper, 2nd air filter removed, all new stereo system minus subs, plastisol the wheels.
    It wasn't that because when that happens you will usually have a few dash lights on and you norm can't go over 1-2k rpm.
    Good thought though
     

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