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Possible to just buy an oem 2nd gen windshield?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by planetbuster, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. Jan 7, 2024 at 1:20 PM
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    planetbuster

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    my windshield has ten thousand super tiny little flecks/gouges/chips, this truck spent alot of time offroad.

    i know that all the usual glass replacement companies make it difficult to trust them, i have no faith in the general competency of most humans..

    i want to directly buy a legit oem windshield THEN deal with having it installed after the fact. that's the plan i'm gonna follow and that's that.

    So the question is; is there anywhere to actually buy 2G oem windshields from? i've searched and found plenty for 3G but not 2nd gen. whats going on here...?
     
  2. Jan 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM
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    Clearwater Bill

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    I'd start by asking at a trusted independent body shop, then a full service glass shop (mirrors, display cases, shower doors, etc) who may either provide such a service or know local quality places.
     
  3. Jan 7, 2024 at 1:33 PM
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    Try calling a dealership parts dept and asking an actual human
     
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    I'd rather replace an aftermarket windshield 2-3x then buy an oem one (for the same price)
     
  6. Jan 7, 2024 at 2:13 PM
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    sure, just not right now, on a sunday =D calling various places is on the to-do list, though.
     
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    I just had mine replaced by Safelight through my insurance and I requested OEM. They put a new Toyota windshield in. Maybe call your local Safelight Autoglass shop and ask where they get them from?
     
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    Installing a windshield isn't rocket science. You're making this way more complicated than it needs to be. Call your insurance company and ask who they recommend then let them do the work.
     
  9. Jan 7, 2024 at 2:36 PM
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    everyone knows safelite is shit and recommended by insurance because it’s cheapest.

    cost will vary based on insurance policy and location. some states windshield coverage is mandated to be free.

    it’s not rocket science. That’s what makes it funny when I as a tech get paid to tell a customer “You fucked up” because they had Safelite put in LingLong causing issues.

    it’s almost like there’s a reason actual dealerships and shops don’t use Safelite.

    they’re in the business of get it right the first time, have the equipment work, and customer satisfaction. Not issues and comebacks.

    to each his own. If someone wants to use Safelite go ahead. Not my truck
     
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    My factory cracked two years in.

    The replacement probably could use it. After 16 years, it looks like it has been sandblasted.

    I'm ok with non oem glass.
     
  11. Jan 7, 2024 at 2:40 PM
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    Just like any other OEM part... you just order from the dealer. Dealers are generally the only sources for genuine, OEM, parts. You're likely in for an overall, more expensive project if you order the glass yourself from the dealer but I suppose its worth pricing things out.

    I'd suggest you call your local Toyota dealer and ask them who they use for their glass installs. Typically a dealer will not do their own glass and will contract with a local company and often they're happy to share that info. And that installer should have a relationship with the dealer so he can source the parts himself (remember you need the glass AND trim, clips...etc). Which may end up being more affordable than you buying it yourself.
     
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    Does it actually have the Toyota stamp on it?
     
  13. Jan 7, 2024 at 2:48 PM
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    That's easy to say, but its an oversimplification. Sure, it's not rocket science, but there are plenty of idiots out there. When installed improperly you can have leaks, poor fitment of trim, or even rust down the road if they damage the paint in the areas where the windshield mounts.

    And that's just the installer. Then there's also the glass. Not all glass is the same quality. Windshield replacements are one of those things where there's a rush to the bottom in terms of price (and quality). Everyone just shops for the cheapest replacement option they can and in order for the installers to offer cheap prices they need to buy cheap glass. If you go thru windshields a lot, then yeah, maybe it's worth just getting a cheap one and replacing it often. But, IMO, it's worth it for the higher quality glass. It is MUCH less prone to pitting and often stronger in terms of crack resistance. Plus, aftermarket, cheap glass may not even be the correct color (some are green tint, some are blue tint...etc) or have other characteristics which don't match the original design. And, some cheap windshields have worse optical quality. Every situation is different, but IMO, it's almost always better to get real, OEM glass or at least a high quality brand if possible.
     
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    exactly. Safelite is known to have poor quality installs and use poor quality glass. That’s why people don’t use them. Folks can if they want. I don’t.

    ideally the glass would resist normal putting or perhaps treatment done to help.
    To avoid frequent replacement.
     
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    Are you wanting an OE(dealer)part or OEM(part made by the manufacturer of OE parts) there is a difference?
     
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    any glass can likely be provided to an installer.

    some shops are hesitant to install customer provided parts depending on the brand. That’s any shop, not glass specific.

    say you run an independent specialist. You get a quality part from a distributor. It has a warranty. It fits. It gets delivered pick or you pick it up from Will Call 2 miles away. They add markup. Maybe a specific brand and part they’ve had success with. Done. And that’s without insurance getting into it.
    Or the other things needed for glass like primer, prep, adhesive sealant, time efficiency of a shop doing hundreds of cars on a schedule.

    big difference between a smooth 2hr job and a headache 3hr job to a shop.

    vs a car needs motor mounts so a customer provides wood from Home Depot (generally the case with the non enthusiast public)
     
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    I agree. The point I was making is if you ask for OEM you may not get an OE part. Example pilkington makes a windshield that goes to the dealer and one that goes to 3rd parties, safe lite, mom and pops etc. they’re are different that’s not to say that those shops can’t get OE parts.
     
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    Yes, OE vs OEM. Same thing with parts. If it's an Audi, manufacturers are Mann, Hengst, Bosch, Mahle, Meyle, Febi Bilstein, etc. which can be bought cheaper
    and sometimes you'll even see where the Audi logo has been ground off with a dremel, suggesting it's made at the same plant. End result is the same, both ultimately fail.

    IDK if suppliers differentiate production quality based on intended destination of the sale/who it goes to such as dealer. If there's any difference at all then it's probably better when going to dealer. Because at that point, the manufacturer of the part is on the hook for it, covering not just replacement if there's a warranty issue, but the labor on top of that. So it'd be in their interest financially to provide the best part.

    quality glass install shops probably warranty as well.
     
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    100% I work with manufacturers daily. And I can assure there is a quality difference between the OE and OEM part for part. A lot has to do with price points for resale. Not that the OEM part is crap it’s just not made to the specs.
     
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    Tier 1, tier 2, tier 3 suppliers. Not to mention that the specs from those parts may differ.

    for example, 555 is the OE (tier 1) supplier for 1st gen ball joints, but OE parts are different then 555 joints...
     
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