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Potential damage from snow recovery.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by myn75, Jan 4, 2022.

  1. Jan 5, 2022 at 12:38 PM
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    Your verbage implied that all snatch-type accessories are only ropes.

    Yes, the flat strap style have a limited number of pulls (rated per the manufacturer) but they still serve a purpose. You're flat out ruling them out.

    If it's by personal preference, cool I get it.

    But don't write them off as if they're completely useless.
     
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  2. Jan 5, 2022 at 12:42 PM
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    I would think as bed gaps are notorious to be off from the plant.
    But... let's play a game alright?
    Let's say the pull bent your frame to close the bed gap by 3/10's. Let's assume that the pull happened five feet (60") back from your bed gap.
    This would give me a triangle with an x axis of 60 and a y axis of .3. Let's solve a triangle!
    The answer is around 2.5/10th's of one degree of bent frame.
    Now, lets figure out what that would do to the truck... Pretty much the only thing it could do is maybe scrub the tires, so let's calculate that!
    The contact patch for your tire is about 7.5" long and 8.3" wide, so let's apply that angle to that contact patch distance.
    Contact patch will be skewed three hundredth's of an inch lol.

    I am going with no frame damage and just a different bed gap!
     
  3. Jan 5, 2022 at 12:42 PM
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    Sorry for bad verbiage. I’ve seen a lot of broken and bent equipment from snatch straps. We stopped using them once kinetic ropes became a thing.
     
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  4. Jan 5, 2022 at 1:05 PM
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    pffft I paid Toyota to do the math for me. If have to do math, I’mma just leave it unlocked by the docks in Montreal and collect the insurance payment when all of a sudden I can’t find it after enjoying my poutine fine dining.

    just joking
    maybe not though
     
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  5. Jan 5, 2022 at 1:27 PM
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    No worries!

    Like I said, if it's out of personal preference then I understand. We should all respect that some of us like using certain tools whereas others don't.

    I have an ARB snatch strap (flat style) that I bought when I had my Tacoma.

    Used it twice with my Tacoma and twice with my 4Runner now so I'm sure I only have 2 more pulls with it.

    Not bad considering I've had it for 3 years and keep it safe from moisture, etc.
     
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  6. Jan 5, 2022 at 1:31 PM
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    You made the edit right when I was about to post that some snatch straps are flat.....

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Jan 5, 2022 at 1:35 PM
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    Not AAA approved?
     
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    No idea
     
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    My mistake bad verbiage.
     
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  10. Jan 5, 2022 at 1:59 PM
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    You also made me dig more into snatch strap vs. kinetic ropes. I assumed incorrectly that they were the same. I now have a kinetic rope on the way as well as my ARB snatch strap that I currently own.
     
  12. Jan 5, 2022 at 2:19 PM
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    Should I make people mad by telling them chains still have their place during recoveries?
     
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    I see you like to live dangerously. :rofl:
     
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    Tire chains do help. I just use emergency strap chains. Two sets on the rear and go.
     
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    The frames on the 3rd gens are really hard to bend too. Actually harder than 1st gens since the 3rd gen frame can actually flex unlike the 1st gen boxes frames


    (I bought the truck like this lol, original owners fine)
     
  17. Jan 5, 2022 at 3:08 PM
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    I see what youre saying with that assuming the position of the bed were to represent the position of the frame. but dismissing that I'm just speculating the frame could have done this type of deformation in the area encircled in the red box aft of the rear cab mounts and fore of the rigid "X" brace doing a rhombus-like shift:
    8369C239-8B28-4409-878A-0D9DB7FE56FC.jpg
    before anyone says chill out or whatever I am just speculating, I will take it to a frame shop eventually
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    Attempting to keep on track a little.
     
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    Like the track the OP made in the snow? :alien:
     

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