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Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by cabarbhab, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. Oct 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM
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    The crash in September was weak, just a correction... But my most accurate guy says it's not over yet.... and I agree, way too much bad news.... But QE4ever can change that really quick....
    Know one knows for sure but it is trending down since May...
     
  2. Oct 16, 2015 at 6:40 PM
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    QE does not mean the fed is buying stocks. Seriously. This is not a conspiracy theory thread.
     
  3. Oct 16, 2015 at 6:41 PM
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    He has been the most accurate of anyone this year.... Including all the business channels, my investment letter and all the doom and gloom guys...

    I would listen to anything he has to say, he called the top in May..........
     
  4. Oct 16, 2015 at 6:42 PM
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    No crash, no down trend. What accurate guy? He have a name?
     
  5. Oct 16, 2015 at 6:44 PM
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    Jim Wille can explain how it works, they basically buy pretend T bills from the banks and the Banks go buy stocks and derivatives (gambling)

    I has something to do with this....
    Because they are buying T bill the banks don't have, so the failure to deliver is going way up.... Just one of the tricks......

    They say demand is high, but from who, the big buyers are selling....

    http://www.investmentnews.com/artic...9975/delivery-failures-plague-treasury-market
     
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    Here you go........ I know you've been waiting.....
     
  7. Oct 16, 2015 at 7:11 PM
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    This Is How the Dollar Dies
    By Porter Stansberry
    Thursday, June 9, 2011
    part of the news letter.......

    Think about it this way: By the end of 2012, our national debt will likely exceed $17 trillion. Let's assume our average interest increases to 4.4% – half the rate we believe investors will eventually demand. That works out to an annual interest expense of almost $750 billion. That's more than we spend on defense or Social Security. Interest expenses would leave the government spending almost $0.25 of every dollar on interest payments.

    Does that sound wise or reasonable to you? Given these expenses, some of our creditors would become reluctant to "roll" our debt into the future by offering new loans. This could cause a serious problem for the U.S. Treasury.

    Portugal's government recently had too much short-term debt coming due and not enough lenders were willing to extend these loans at affordable rates. It suffered a debt default. The country required a bailout by the European Central Bank (ECB). Lots of economists criticized Portugal's borrowing strategy because much of its debts were short-term.

    Apparently, these folks haven't bothered looking at the U.S. Treasury's debt-maturity curve. We have. The numbers are so shocking, we expect most of our subscribers simply won't believe us.

    You can read all of the numbers for yourself, if you'd like. The Bureau of the Public Debt includes them in its Financial Audit, which you can read here.

    Feel free to read all 35 pages... Or focus on just one piece of data. It's all you really need to know: 61% of all the marketable Treasury debt held by the public will mature within four years.

    Thus, over the next four years, the U.S. Treasury must either repay or refinance more than $1 trillion in existing debt each year – not to mention additional deficit spending of at least $1.5 trillion. For us to avoid a default, the U.S. Treasury may have to borrow or refinance as much as $10 trillion in the next four years.

    That would double the amount of U.S. Treasury bonds currently trading in the world's markets.

    Think about that for a minute. Then consider the decades-low yields in the Treasury market today, which would surely rise to accommodate this enormous increase in supply.

    Now, try to arrive at any sort of scenario that ends well for today's U.S. Treasury bond market investors. We can't... We don't know exactly what the end game will look like or exactly when the bond market will crash. But we know it is coming. We know it can't be avoided. And we know many investors will suffer catastrophic losses.

    Given these risks, the Federal Reserve cannot allow the Treasury's borrowing costs to increase. It cannot allow the dollar to strengthen. It cannot allow the stock market to fall or business activity to slow...

    That's why we are 100% certain the Fed's promise to stop printing money and buying Treasury bonds on June 30 is a lie.

    Even though we know Bernanke will have to turn back on the printing presses sooner or later, we have no doubt the market will react strongly to the presses' temporary stop. Expect big moves: falling commodities, a rising dollar, and even falling stock prices.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2015 at 7:16 PM
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    And yet here we are, 4 years later, fat, dumb and happy...

    The world didn't end, the dollar didn't die and in fact 4 years after this ridiculous article the dollar is stronger then all the other major currencies, go figure huh?
     
  9. Oct 16, 2015 at 7:23 PM
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    You missed this part...... that's from 4 years ago, they are saying unlimited money printing and that they can't raise rates...

    seams spot on so far....

    Given these risks, the Federal Reserve cannot allow the Treasury's borrowing costs to increase. It cannot allow the dollar to strengthen. It cannot allow the stock market to fall or business activity to slow...

    That's why we are 100% certain the Fed's promise to stop printing money and buying Treasury bonds on June 30 is a lie.

    Those vids I post say the dollar going up is bad, I don't agree that it's bad, but they say that it will go up before the end, I don't remember the details....
     
  10. Oct 17, 2015 at 5:05 PM
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    Get back on topic, it's a PM thread not a death to the dollar thread.
     
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    My graph shows the opposite of this to be true. Gas price absolutely does change.


    This isn't news, it's how inflation works. This is why salaried positions will often have inflation adjustments and bonuses. Also, inflation isn't constant, it goes up and down. Right now, we are not experiencing a noteworthy level of inflation.


    That is not a fact.



    SOLD. In fact, I'd like to double down. BUT WAIT... if I act now....
     
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    Yes excellent advice right here! Peter Schiff CEO of EuroPac who's funds are down an average of 13% this year and netted a whopping 1 star rating from Morning Star. Yeah I wanna listen to what he has to say, NOT! He has excelled at one thing though, consistently losing all of his clients money....
     
  14. Oct 19, 2015 at 3:17 PM
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    So this chart of the dollar is wrong..... The they are trying to hide the fact that a gold standard had stable prices and maintained better purchasing power....
    Prices were basically flat for 70 years un till 1973.....


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    It should look more like this........... Steady with a big drop in 1973.....
    That's what will happen again, just like 1973..........

    The following chart shows the value of the U.S. dollar in terms of gold.

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    candy prices from 1909, everything jumps up in 1973....
    http://www.candywrapperarchive.com/candy-collector/candy-prices-over-the-years/

    Not the end of the world, just everything will double in price, again...... But PMs will go up double or more...........
     
  15. Oct 19, 2015 at 6:57 PM
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    Are you mentally fucking retarded? When I picture an ape banging on a keyboard at random it still doesn't equate to your level of stupidity.


    "Prices were basically flat for 70 years..." As long as you disregard any and all fluctuation, including the great depression, one of the worst points in recent history for both the U.S. economy as well as the global economy, then sure, we can pretend that it was "flat."

    You sir, are fucked in the head. There is no hope for you. Not only are you ignorant and misguided, you are also painfully unintelligent.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2015 at 8:12 PM
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    Well if you read a book, you would know what years we ran what money....
    Because you would be able to understand simple history..... Like the Brenton Woods agreement.........
    We ran the same gold backed dollar from 1944 to 1973... 29 years prices were steady....
    All the inflation happen after we left the gold standard......
    Gas was 30 cents for 70 years, till 1973 and now its $3.00 to $4.00 for the same gallon of gas with less octane and no lead...
    Other than the civil war the dollar maintained 90% of it's value for 140 years.....
    Only an idiot can't see that the value of the dollar is going down....

    You don't have to like PMs to know this simple shit......

    If you really believe the BS you dish out you should start the "I love taking up the a** from my gov" thread... Go buy some knee pads and go give them all a happy ending for their great work.......
     
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    4 out of the top 10 economies are going to stop using our money........ Don't be stupid..........

    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't even know where to begin on this. I avoided this thread for a couple weeks, but this is just beyond ridiculous. The Bureau of Labor Statistics does not have published data from 1795 or 1913 or whatever year your fellow trolls pull garbage data from. Here is all the CPI data used for Purchasing Power available from the BLS, it starts at 1947. Here's an annualized value change of the dollar relative to domestic purchasing power.

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    I can't ask where your numbers come from because you don't know. They're not even factually backed and you didn't create these graphs. Please just stop trolling this thread, your attempts to pass off other's misinformation that you don't understand is like watching a parrot have a conversation... neither one has any idea what they're saying and most is out-of-context gibberish. Sell some precious metals and invest in undergrad education so you can make informed decisions. I fear someone will post a youtube discussing Beanie Baby scarcity and you'll invest all your shekels in a Toys R Us.
     
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    On a plus, I did learn a lot about palladium at one point in this thread. Feels like eons ago.
     

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