Question about an Icon C/O lift

I just purchased a 2012 Double cab. It has an Icon C/O lift and it does not look right. I am bottoming out like crazy and do not want to hurt anything. I am running 295/70/17 Nittos and have to be careful while hitting a bump and turning at the same time. I took a corner at relatively low speed on Saturday and the truck front end started pushing through the corner, not sure if it was locking the wheel up from rubbing or if it was the ABS thing. Thanks.

#1 Does my C/O look right in the way it is setup?

#2 Can I add a spacer to get more lift without having to go to a 6" lift?

#3 Should I just get smaller tires?

 

That's an awful lot of preload on those coils. The problem is likely the coils aren't strong enough to support that heavy bumper. It looks like the previous owner cranked down the coilovers to get lift back. I would recommend getting a stronger coil on those front shocks to help support the ARB bumper and end the bottoming out issue. Does the bumper have a winch in it?

Do not add a spacer lift to that setup. Stacking lifts is not a good idea and not the correct way to solve your lift issues.

As far as tires, I can't help you, sorry. I don't have all the electronic crap on my truck and I'm running smaller tires to avoid rubbing issues

 

#1, it looks right but you have too much (IMO) preload on them.
#2, You don't want to add a lift spacer with that much preload already, stacking lifts generally isn't a good idea either.
#3, that's a badass truck, there is an ARB front bumper, that's probably the culprit for the mass amount of preload, I would contact an ICON vendor and order a set of 650 or 700 lb coils to change out the probably 600 lb coils that are on there now.

You could always go with a smaller tire, but it won't solve your suspension issues if you are bottoming out. Could you elaborate on the said bottoming out issue?

 

1. Do you have a picture from the front. It is hard to tell from the angle of the picture. It looks right, but it looks like those might be cranked all the way up.
2. no spacers. Check the angle of your cv angles if you are 4x4. you can adjust the icons from there.
3. check for rubbing on the body mount. if it is not already chopped with that tire size you are more than likely rubbing.

 

1- dear god that a whole lot of preload on that shock, you're not suppose to expose more than 2 inches of thread from the top per Icons suggestion. I would highly suggest (especially cause you have a front bumper) changing the spring on those coil overs. I installed Kings 650lb on my Icons which allowed me the same height with a lot less preload. For you I would suggest going with Kings 700lbs springs

2- I'm running a 1/2 spacer on my driver side coil over to fix the dreaded taco lean, no issues and my alignment is on point. Anything bigger than that or 3/4 of an inch and you're asking for premature/handling issues. I'm assuming you're thinking of putting spacers to even out the height with the rear.

3- your tire size will cause issues with rubbing on the frame when turning the wheel lock to lock, I would suggest getting the cab mount chop done to help minimize the rubbing

 

That looks like alot of preload. Are you bottoming out or topping out?

 

Thanks! When I say bottoming out It is scrubbing but sounds more like a solid thump.

 

Don't know if you can tell from this angle

 

Damn, nice truck again. Your best bet is to swap the springs in the C/O's to 700 pounders, I recommend Kings. You are pushing about 250 pounds on the front end.

 

What about a heavier spring? Some have suggested 700lb what about higher than that, say a 900lb? What about bump stops? Thanks to those who have replied, gives me some hope.....thought I was going to have to redo the front.

 

The cab mount is behind the tire, it's where there is a tab hanging off the frame to support the front of the cabin.

You have an ARB bumber and a winch, you need heavier coils. I would definitely recommend looking into some 700# coils. That setup is too heavy for the coils you have now and is why you are bottoming out.

 

700# springs will work fine. 900 lb springs will make it ride like a dump truck (if you can even find a spring that heavy to fit the Tacoma). Stock coils on a Tacoma is only 540# so at 700, you are significantly stronger. You shouldn't have to mess with your bump stops but may have to revalve your shocks to better dampen the stiffer coil.

 

Not sure if they make 900 lb springs but I would stick with the 700 pound ones. I'm running 700 lb kings with a plate bumper, winch, full skids, and sliders.

Call up downsouth motorsports and talk to Sonny, he will be able to help you out if you explain your situation.

 

Your springs are definitely over pre loaded.

This how mines came from DSM set at 2.5 lift


This is how they are set now. If i remember correctly I cranked the driver side down a full turn 5 times and passenger side 4 times. Those few turns don't look like much of a difference compared to the previous pic, but it did make a difference in height.


Passenger side, but you obviously have a bigger tire than i do.


No measurements...

 

which would be better ICON 700lb springs or the King?

 

I'm not sure how much it would matter, but I would personally want the same manufacturer as the shocks.

 

Thanks guys! Ordered 700lb Springs from Icon. When I put them on I will report back on the changes. Once again thanks!

 

Is your 650lb spring 14" long? As I understand the stock 650lb spring on the Icon coilover is 13" long. I'm thinking of using a King 650lb 14" long spring to make less preload and better ride.

 

So I got the 700lb springs put in. I am no longer bottoming out. The front end has a steady bounce to it like a lowrider now.

 

Doesn't look like anyone addressed the wheels yet. Are you still rubbing with the new set up? I have no experience with the icon lift, but I run the same tire size you have and I rub when I hit a bump when I am turning sharp. If you are still having that problem, you will either need to do some trimming or go with a smaller tire