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Random Clutch Issues...

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by JBear, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. Nov 4, 2010 at 8:57 AM
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    JBear

    JBear [OP] Spiral Out... Keep Going!

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    Hey everyone...Im having an odd problem. I just bought my first Taco about 2 months ago, so Im clueless what might be going on. Since I bought it I've been up to the mountains with it twice. BOTH times, and ONLY when Im up there, my clutch partially goes out. I get up to my cabin fine, park my truck, and the next morning it's like I have almost NO clutch at all? I pull the pedal back up... nothing. I pump it... nothing. But if I drive it like that for a bit, turn it off and back on a little later, its fine again! WTH??? I already know the clutch is due soon. I bought the truck with 109k, and dont see any new clutch installed in the records... it's pretty obvious anyway, lol.Anyway... does anyone know what might cause this? Is it the altitude / line pressure? If so, shouldn't pumping work immediately? The fluid levels are fine.Thanks to anyone who may be able to help... I appreciate it! Oh yah... I have a Silver 2003 Access Cab SR5 4WD Manual w/ TRD Off-Road diff lock.
     
  2. Nov 4, 2010 at 4:14 PM
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    maybe the clutch fluid just needs to be rebled or it has old shitty fluid in it, if its a blackish brown color definitly bleed some new fluid into it.
     
  3. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:06 PM
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    IIRC the 1st gear syncho makes it hard to engage 1st gear when the fluid temps are down, especially with non-synthetic gear oil. Since you are new to the truck i'd try changing out the oil. Use a nice synthetic like redline mtl or mt-90. I've used both and they work very well, they do not contain any friction modifiers that some gear oils have. The synchos do not like friction modifiers.

    Unless your clutch has seen a lot of abuse during its like, 109K is not that many miles for the stock clutch. There are stories of folks on here with 200K on their original clutch.
     
  4. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:15 PM
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    My bad on the 109k... typo! I bought it with 149k. I will try out the MT-90 first, and see how that helps. Shouldn't be long before I get to test it out... snow is coming.
     
  5. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:18 PM
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    Your slave cylinder or clutch master could be going out too.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM
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    The pedal occasionally sticks about 3/4 the way up... a quick light tap and it pops up... would that be another symptom of a cyl? Any indicator of which?
     
  7. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:34 PM
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    I would say the clutch master. Maybe the pressure is bleeding off a little bit. I know on my 91 if you follow the metal line from the clutch master there is a 12 inch piece of brake line then it goes back to the metal line to the slave cylinder. Im not sure if you have that, but if its bad it might be expanding on you causing loss of clutch pressure. If its easy Id just replace the clutch master and slave if its on the outside of your trans to eliminate that possible problem.
     
  8. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:35 PM
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    That could just be the spring too. A little grease should fix that.
     
  9. Nov 5, 2010 at 9:19 AM
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    JBear [OP] Spiral Out... Keep Going!

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    No, its not all that bad, but Im gonna have it checked when I replace the clutch soon... its really getting down there, so I want a fresh one anyway. Thanks for the tips, man. Hope I don't have to replace ALL that crap, lol... probably not.
     
  10. Nov 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM
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    No prob. Have fun with your truck!
     
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    I too have a clutch that sticks in and Ive been reading the threads that deal with cold temps. However, I dont live in a cold environment and this morning my clutch stayed stuck to the floor after shifting into 1st. I had driven the truck in the morning so it wasnt the first drive of the day.

    Its never been that bad, it always pops out and I would just tap back it to its full travel. As a quick fix, I sprayed some grease down where the spring is and where the rod goes in. Any ideas to the cause and a remedy?
     
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