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Rear axle failure

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Stormbird, May 8, 2010.

  1. May 8, 2010 at 8:05 AM
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    Stormbird

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    Hi All, new to the forum. Thanks to some of you who PM'd with me about this issue already.

    '06 Doublecab Prerunner
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    78k miles, street use only

    Right rear seal failed and filled the brake drum with oil. Mechanic at the dealer said the seal failed because either it or the housing was dented(hard to tell which as this is translated through the service rep & haven't seen the truck myself yet)

    If the seal is damaged then it sounds to me that its a manufacturing defect. If so, then I think Toyota corporate should pay for it. It seems like seal failures are fairly common. I checked the recall/TSB's but there doesn't seem to be anything for the seals.

    Opinions?

    Thanks,
    J
     
  2. May 8, 2010 at 9:14 PM
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    Hootbro

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    First of all, seals do not last forever. Secondly, warranties can not last forever and things do eventually wear and break down.

    Corporate Toyota is going to have a good laugh when you want restitution on a part that has 78K miles on it and you say it is a manufacturing defect.
     
  3. May 8, 2010 at 10:26 PM
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    WATacoRider

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    Don't bother making threats to call the BBB and complain to corporate and blah blah blah, because they dont give a shit. You'll just look like an ass.

    Either way,you're out of luck.

    If the housing is damaged, you'll get the blame and still have to pay.
    If the seal is damaged, consider it wear and tear and you'll still have to pay.

    Welcome to vehicle ownership.
     
  4. May 8, 2010 at 10:34 PM
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    08pretaco

    08pretaco Almost there

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    sorry man...but wlcome to the forum :)
     
  5. May 8, 2010 at 10:42 PM
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    I hope things work out for you.
    If not and you decide your next vehicle will be a dodge, I highly recommend the highest milage warranty they offer. You'll need it.
     
  6. May 8, 2010 at 11:10 PM
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    So you're telling me that they wouldn't stand by a part that was damaged internally? Tell me how that can happen other than during the production line. I guess Toyota doesn't really stand by their product then. Not surprising though. We'll see what they say on Monday. Not holding my breath.

    We've had several Jeeps, Chevy trucks and even two Mitsu DSM's in the family and none of them have ever had an axle seal fail. Never even heard of it happening before this. Oh well.
     
  7. May 8, 2010 at 11:39 PM
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    I replaced my right rear axle a few days ago, the seal costs $6
     
  8. May 9, 2010 at 12:26 PM
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    People on this forum will not like you talking well of Jeep and Chevy vehicles. You will be called a traitor and any other curse word they can think of at the time of their typing. Around here Toyota is a god and if a Toyota failed for some reason causing the death of a bus load of kids, the kids would be at fault.

    As to the seal. Even internal parts fail over time. I agree with most that you will be out the cost of repairs. Good luck though.
     
  9. May 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM
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    Check out your breather as well. #1 reason why seals fail, too much pressure, the seal is designed to keep in the oil that is splashing against it, not pressure.
    I know you are pissed, but it is a common problem with all vehicles.
     
  10. May 9, 2010 at 12:53 PM
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    I replaced mine a few months ago too. It was cheap and i did it myself in less than an afternoons work.
     
  11. May 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM
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    DrRabbitFurHead Yeah, there's a TSB for that!

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    Damn kids. ;)
     
  12. May 9, 2010 at 2:46 PM
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    Toyota stands by their product during the warranty period. No auto company can guarantee a car forever nor be on on the hook to repair something even if they did cause it.

    Sorry to hear your Toyota experience has soured you on the brand but trust me, all the others have they issues also and in spades at times.

    Shit happens.
     
  13. May 9, 2010 at 2:49 PM
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    They could if they wanted, but then their service dept. wouldn't make any money.
     
  14. May 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM
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    Of course if they "wanted" but that is not the real world. At the moment all we have is the assumption of what the OP thinks is the problem. In the real world, Toyota would have the OP sign a waiver that if after their investigation, root cause is not found, then the OP is on the hook for the investigative labor. This is of course if Toyota would even want to entertain this at all.

    When you buy a new vehicle, the manufacturer is saying in essence that your vehicle will have a suitability of doing it's intended function for "X" amount of time with "X" being the warranty period. While law of averages will show it to go beyond that, the maker is not backing that up with any warranty.

    Maybe it is a generational thing as I do not know the OP's age but there seems to be a trend with young people that someone else has to pay when things go bad regardless of the contract they entered into when they bought the item to begin with.

    Warranties are very generous today as even up to the 1980's, 12/12 was the standard warranty period for a lot of cars back then. Warranties today are a marketing and sales tool to give confidence the prospective buyer. Toyota could if they wanted go to almost no warranty with the exception of mandated emissions ones.
     
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