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Rear Brake Shoes Already Worn?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by BigOlBrown, Feb 17, 2021.

  1. Feb 17, 2021 at 6:46 PM
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    BigOlBrown

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    After a service at my local tacoma dealership, I was told my rear brake shoes are already at 3mm. My 2019 Tacoma only has 43,000 miles. Mostly highway. This seems weird to me. Anybody else have this issue?
     
  2. Feb 17, 2021 at 6:51 PM
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    MauiBrian

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    First, I would ask them to SHOW you...
    There are plenty of shyster dealers out there...
    And remember that rear drums have less lining thickness than front disc pads. 11 mm thickness on disc pads...
    You may have a problem with your ebrake adjustment but that's not common.
     
  3. Feb 17, 2021 at 7:15 PM
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    Itchyfeet

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    I'm guessing the tech's JetSki payment is late and needs to bring his rookie numbers up
     
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  4. Feb 17, 2021 at 7:18 PM
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    I'll check it myself this weekend, if it is actually 3mm, what the hell could be going on?
     
  5. Feb 17, 2021 at 7:19 PM
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    I have had places try to screw me with brake jobs many times. Beware
     
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    It is possible, but it's not normal. Possibly something is not right in the alignment of the shoes or someone drove around with the ebrake on. I'd want to see the shoes. Is it only one or all of them worn down?
     
  7. Feb 17, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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    Too many ebrake J turns.

    :notsure: yeah I dunno, I thought these systems were self balancing.

    I'll take a wild ass wager and say one pad out of four is thin. Defective pad.
     
  8. Feb 17, 2021 at 7:43 PM
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    cspcrx

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    My 2009 had the original shoes still on it with 196k miles I would really question that.
     
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    I.eat.tacos

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    Are jaming your brakes hard like a F1 car approaching the turns? 43k miles isn't much, but everyone driving style is different.
     
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    No I drive it like I'm a soccer mom driving, when I'm on the road at least. So I bought the truck with 21k miles and noticed that the rear drums were really rusty. I know all trucks get this rusk but at one year old and 20k miles it looked odd. Could be a sign the brakes got too hot one to many times. Maybe the previous owner was hammering the brakes or left the e brake on one day?
     
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    111k miles on mine and they aren’t that worn down yet. Still on the original front brakes too. Although they are starting to squeal...
     
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    Quite possible previous owner was hammering the off-road like a F1 car, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of leaving the hand brake on one too many times too.
     
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    1mm is discard, they are 4.5mm new.

    Pads are 11-12mm new, 2-3mm discard.
     
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    Yeah as others have stated. I got rid of my 2010 with 185k original drums. Either something is really outta whack or they’re trying to take you for a ride.
     
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    Pull the drums and check, its pretty easy. I’d say they are trying to scam you though
     
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    Remove the rubber plug and look to see if they are actually low.
     
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    This ^ I think they are wanting too make some money off you,check them yourself.
     
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    As mentioned before, it is a scam. You will for sure have to verify physically that your brake shoes are really gone. It happened to my dad a year ago. The Toyota dealer said that his rear brakes are good, but his front brakes will need new brakes the next time he comes in for an oil change. Glad he asked me to replace his brakes as we went ahead and bought genuine rotors and pads. I came to find out that his front brakes were almost good as new. Sad to hear this is still going on around the country.
     
  19. Feb 18, 2021 at 4:58 AM
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    Sounds fishy to me. For the record, just over 70% of your braking effort is on the front wheels. That is largely the reason why Toyota doesn't put disc brakes on the rear of Tacoma's, they simply do not need them with their payload/towing capacity. If your front brake pads are still the originals, there is simply no way that the original rear shoes should be that worn. The only way is if either the parking brake is misadjusted or you don't release the parking brake completely before you start driving.

    Pull the rear drums and check the wear yourself. If you have excessive wear, then you need to look deeper into the problem rather than merely replacing the rear brake shoes.
     
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    Check them yourself if you can, or get a second opinion elsewhere.
    My rear brakes needed replacing way before I expected them to also. I don’t remember exactly when, maybe around 50-55k miles. But I can’t account for how the previous owner drove so there’s that.
     

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