Rear Drums

And an electric one at that.

 

Ok so it’s a mustang SUV. And electric.



Yet ANOTHER example of how the domesticated demographic, through focus groups probably, insist that vehicles be adapted to them, instead of them buying vehicles that are lifestyle appropriate. Buy a fucking minivan...but they don’t want that. They want a MuStAnG that can haul their fuck trophies to softball and karate class. They still want that mustang life but they don’t have that mustang life anymore. They have a minivan life and are in denial.

 

It's for family people who had a mustang in their youth, miss the name, but also need to haul around their kids.

And apparently, want to be green. Or something.

 

I reply to this, because I agree.

I dislike the drum brakes, many times when off road in mud or muddling, I had to take apart the rear drums and completely clean them because of mud buildup in the drum, never had the problem in a disk brake. On my last trip to the Arctic Ocean, we had major build up of mud in the wheels on the truck and trailer, but zero in the disk brakes.
As for the passenger seat, I would love to see an 8 way passenger seat as well as the drivers seat. I do some really long trips with my vehicles, been to Alaska three times and the Arctic Ocean once and I am not always the driver and would like to be just as comfortable in the passenger seat as I am in the drivers seat.
My next Tacoma could be my 8th Toyota pickup and my 11th Toyota vehicle, I think they need to up their game. The best seats I have had was a 87 SR5 or a 2000 Limited.

 

o Ages ago, I worked in a heavy truck and equipment machine shop/component supplier. ALL the HD trucks and equipment used drums. Only the highway only stuff like tanker trucks had disks. I also remember being told the drums were way more resistant to dust/dirt and the like compared to disks.
o My experience in the above industry and my current aviation field made it very clear that drums had much better static holding capacity than disks.

 

Same. My experience in the heavy commercial industry has pretty much cemented a positive opinion on drums. They are reliable and stout.

Since covid hit, a lot of heavy fleet vehicles were taken off the road. Some of those vehicles are being put back into service now... The drum brakes are as good as they were when they were put away. However on a 3 axle vehicle, with disc brakes, almost every caliper is seized, pins are shot and need a rebuild, and/or internal adjusters are shot.

Disc brakes are great. So are drums. There are positives and negatives to both. Thankfully, on a Tacoma, both systems exist. So where one lacks, the other doesn't.

 

Woah there, slow down with the radical opinions.

 

I puked a little when I saw this.

So sad.

But hey man check out my sick whip...yeah it's an EV Stang. In my opinion better than a 67' cuz ya know. Environment. Hang on Keith and kyle are about to take the field in an almost athletic sport.

Edit: now that I said this I feel like it has nothing to do with it being a mustang and everything with it being a horse slapped on something to make it sell and grab your attention. So maybe the marketing is just straight crushing the mid life crisis but the practical husband group

 

Yes. Marketing.

 

Yeah. That and women who don’t mind the look and enjoy the insinuation that it is sporty. I mean, it probably will crush most mustangs in the universe in a straight line and on a track, so it’s the emotional reactions that we’re dealing with here, no? Hell, If they tacked a bed on I’d probably f...drive it.

 

Talk to any automobile mechanic about rear disk brakes on trucks that are actually used as a truck and are more than two years old...

 

Disk drum, drum disk.
Disk brakes are good at one thing, shedding heat. That's the reason race cars use them, and weight, they can be built to weigh way less.

 

I wonder if the coming shared platform will change things.

 

Disagree on your first point: it’s not the invention date that matters, it’s the in-service date that matters. Drum brakes were ubiquitous on cars until the 80s, front and rear. Disc brakes (on mainstream vehicles) are a much more recent adoption.

 

That isn’t the argument though, so...no.

When a person says drums are older tech, they are wrong. It doesn’t matter how YOU want to frame it.


Your argument is based on ubiquity lol.

 

I think it’s totally legit to say that drum brakes are an older technology. They were common in an older era and are now uncommon in modern light vehicles.

The real lol here is the pedantry of being technically correct about invention dates while missing the point.

 

So they were invented more recently, but they're an older technology because you think they were popular for a while but now they aren't?


It isn't pedantry. Words have meanings. That is an entirely different argument that you're trying to shoehorn into this one.

 

If you don’t think the word “older” can cover the meaning I have described, please, educate me on a more suitable and nuanced word choice.

 

Mercedes is using on their Zetros Truck (which is build for off-road duty) all around drum breaks. Their reasoning is that drum breaks are better protected from dirt and mud getting into them and makes them more reliable in permanent off road use.
Not sure about Toyota, but maybe that is the same reason for them to use drum breaks in the back!?

 

Unpopular? Eclipsed by improvements in disk brakes? Out-of-favor? Designed for a different purpose?

All of these are more descriptive than just saying they're 'old'.