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Rear end ride quality after lift

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by speedracer4, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Oct 2, 2019 at 4:25 AM
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    speedracer4

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    Just did a 2" front lift and 1.5" rear lift. For the rear I used 1.5" blocks and 5100s, also added CB spacer even though that probably isn't necessary.

    Front end rides like stock and I'm happy there but the rear is firmer than I would like. I thought using a spacer block and a longer shock would keep the ride closer to factory than an AAL.

    Any recommendations for a rear lift of 1.5"-2" that will improve my ride? Not interested in Dakars because of the noise.

    2019 DCSB OR about 6 weeks old, factory tires/wheels.
     
  2. Oct 2, 2019 at 4:27 AM
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    I have Deaver LT SUA leaf packs and have been really happy with them. Also have adjustable bypass shocks. Your best bet would be to get a set of adjustable shocks and tune them until youre happy. Really not going to get what youre looking for off the shelf
     
  3. Oct 2, 2019 at 4:34 AM
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    A block spacer is never gonna ride well, because you basically have to transfer all the road forces through a brick before the suspension even starts mitigating them.

    Frankly, youre not usually gonna get a softer ride in the rear without getting airbags or something too. Aftermarket shocks are for racing, so the softest are still going to be firmer than youre probably looking for. You can make it a little better by getting extended travel shocks but that may not suit your build.

    Have you replaced your bumpstops? Honestly the single biggest difference in on-road comfort I had came from installing superbumps, they soak up an absolute ton.
     
  4. Oct 2, 2019 at 4:49 AM
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    The block is not the problem it's the 5100's and the light rear end.
     
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    I agree, the block isn't an issue, it's bolted down and becomes part of the axle. The ride is better after I added the 5100s, I tried it with the stock shocks first and it was worse.
     
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    Ok thats cool you guys do you, good luck sorting it out.
     
  7. Oct 2, 2019 at 5:11 AM
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    Can't imagine how a block would ride better or close to stock.

    I did the B110 RCD/5100's and Dakars (no noise btw, guess I'm lucky???) and I was surprised by the ride quality improvement. I wasn't too concerned about ride quality but quickly noticed a difference in the rear. Front remained like stock (5100/888/JBA UCA's).

    Good luck with whatever you decide.
     
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  8. Oct 2, 2019 at 5:21 AM
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    the block itself doesn't change anything suspension wise other than make your shock mounting points farther apart., its still just an axle bolted to a leaf. If I could get a stock shock that was 1.5" longer it should ride ~same as factory in theory.

    How much are you lifted in the rear? I didn't go with the extended 5100s because I'm only lifted 1.5".
     
  9. Oct 2, 2019 at 5:21 AM
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    The block is not the issue, they do not alter the factory spring rate. The 5100s you chose ride more harshly than the factory equipment you removed.
     
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    5100's are stiffer offroad shocks. Your shocks and springs are affecting your ride. Not the blocks.
     
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    You are wise!!
     
  12. Oct 2, 2019 at 6:09 AM
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    I agree with the comments on the blocks. All your are doing is bolting a block to the axle perch and setting the spring on top of that. It effectively becomes part of the axle and you aren't affecting the springs. As long as the change in driveshaft angle doesn't cause mechanical interference and we aren't talking about the change in moment around the frame there should be no issue.

    Has the OP confirmed that the shocks aren't limiting travel? Otherwise, the shocks are the only change and might not be tuned to your truck and might not be a good fit.
     
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    Tough to explain the OP's issue then when we have nearly identical trucks (18 vs 19) and the biggest difference is Dakars vs blocks. He's complaining about ride quality whereas I have improved ride quality. :confused::notsure:
     
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    I'm using dakars. Zero noise. Grease them properly and every so often. Block spacers never feel good on any truck.
     
  15. Oct 2, 2019 at 6:15 AM
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    not limiting travel, just too firm. I'm feeling everything on the road, pretty sure I'd notice if I drove over a nickel. With the stock shocks with the blocks I could tell they were over extended and they were even more harsh.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2019 at 6:18 AM
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    A block under the leaf pack does not negatively impact the ride quality. What does make for a harsh ride, with factory springs, are aftermarket shocks with higher compression valving and tires with increased load-rating and/or air pressure.
     
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    Blocks cause axle warp. Which in turn negatively affects the ride. Not to the degree of the shocks, but enough to notice
     
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    Here we go.... 1" or 1.5" blocks will not cause warp. Larger blocks yes.
     
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    Jury is still out on that one, seeing as the tacoma in stock form with no blocks or anything will exhibit some axle WRAP, its a little difficult to blame an aftermarket part for an issue there as delivered. As I said before, I experienced the best improvement on all suspension related issues with adjustable shocks. That would be the way to go, and a lot of work figuring out how you like them set up and figuring out where the limits of your new parts are.
     
  20. Oct 2, 2019 at 6:42 AM
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    I disagree
     

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