1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

rear setup question

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by adamw, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. Nov 8, 2011 at 8:26 PM
    #1
    adamw

    adamw [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Member:
    #49891
    Messages:
    125
    Gender:
    Male
    sunnyvale, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 prerunner SR5 6spd
    on my 06 prerunner I have 5100's in the front but the rear is still stock, no TSB, nothing. at first i was just going to go with 5100's in the rear too and call it good. Then I read a few things about people over extending them and tearing them apart. I was looking into the icon 1.5" leaf pack and the bilstein 5150's instead of the 5100's. has anyone ran these? would I run into the same prolem with these as I would with the 5100's?

    http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-135589-bilstein-5150-series-performance-shocks.html

    http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-4986328-icon-toyota-tacoma-96-04-rear-add-a-leaf-kit.html

    would the 1st gen ones work on a 2nd gen?:confused:
     
  2. Nov 8, 2011 at 10:26 PM
    #2
    Sublime

    Sublime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Member:
    #25918
    Messages:
    3,732
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD 4x4
    Icon/All Pro.....chopped for 35's
    You'll basically want to measure your extended on collapsed lengths of your leafs without shocks. Then pick a shock that matches. The 5150's and 5125's will need an eye to stem adaptor and will add and inch to the measurements. I have that same aal with the overload in and get 25.5" extended and 16" collapsed depending on bump stops. I got the 9.24" 5125's and added a spacer under the bumps to not bottom them out!
     
  3. Nov 9, 2011 at 7:51 AM
    #3
    adamw

    adamw [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Member:
    #49891
    Messages:
    125
    Gender:
    Male
    sunnyvale, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 prerunner SR5 6spd
    that's a good start. I didn't know about the adapters. I am mainly trying to get more travel with out lifting it more than 1.5" so that when I adjust the 5100's in front to 2.5 I'll still be able to get level. will I need to do a u flip kit or extended bump stops with this setup or would I just need the leaf pack an shocks?
     
  4. Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM
    #4
    adamw

    adamw [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Member:
    #49891
    Messages:
    125
    Gender:
    Male
    sunnyvale, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 prerunner SR5 6spd
  5. Nov 10, 2011 at 12:00 AM
    #5
    Konaborne

    Konaborne Pineapples on pizza Hawaiian does not it make.

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Member:
    #46536
    Messages:
    31,871
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Kealakekua, Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    Lifted 00 TRD Off-Road
    fox extended travel remote resivoir coilovers, 14" eibach 600lb coils, All Pro tubular chromoly 1" uniball upper control arms, All Pro expedition leaf packs, 10" bilstein 5150 piggyback reservoir shocks 265/75r16 Goodyear wrangler MT/R kevlars wrapped around 16" Helo 791 gloss black, Mini H1 retrofits with 6000k bulbs, 18" magnaflow w/custom exhaust reroute various decals, Sockmonkey retro hood stripes
    the 5150's are too long to be run without a lift, and their built in resi's make them great shocks.

    however DSM has extended 5100's that will not be damaged by a lift, so it depends on your budget
     
  6. Nov 10, 2011 at 5:42 AM
    #6
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    29,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '13 Ford F-150 SCREW
    F-150 Mod
    Without the TSB and just the Icon 1.5" AAL you'll more than likely be just fine with the standard 5100's.

    I'm running a TSB pack and the same Icon 1.5" AAL but I kept the overload leaf in place giving me 2" of rear lift (the install instructions for the AAL tell you to remove the overload leaf but there is no harm in leaving it in place but it will give you slightly more lift). I've got standard length 5100's and am just fine. If I was a hard core off roader and flexed the shit out of my rear suspension, I might start having problems but down mild trails I've found I have plenty of room to articulate and have not topped the shocks out yet.

    As far as the install, you'll need an angle grinder and basic hand tools. No flip kit needed or extended bumps. If you go with a longer shock though, you might need extended bumps. Talk to DSM and confirm with them. You want to make sure you hit the bump stops before you bottom out the shock!
     
  7. Nov 10, 2011 at 8:03 AM
    #7
    adamw

    adamw [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Member:
    #49891
    Messages:
    125
    Gender:
    Male
    sunnyvale, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 prerunner SR5 6spd
    so even if I get the 5150's the same extended and collapsed length as the 5100's they will still be too long because of the adapter?
     
  8. Nov 30, 2011 at 12:44 AM
    #8
    adamw

    adamw [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Member:
    #49891
    Messages:
    125
    Gender:
    Male
    sunnyvale, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 prerunner SR5 6spd
    so I found wheelers 1.5 in leaf pack and people seem to say good thing about them and like the leafs from them, so I think Ill try those. I am still wondering though, 5100s in the rear or 5150? the 5150 ext/coll. lengths are 22.5/14.17 which are the close to the 5100 specs. 22.94/14 (for the 0-1.5 lift) but the 5150s need to eye-to-stem adapter which adds an inch so will the 5150s end up being to long at that point?
     
  9. Nov 30, 2011 at 3:17 AM
    #9
    Sublime

    Sublime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Member:
    #25918
    Messages:
    3,732
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD 4x4
    Icon/All Pro.....chopped for 35's
    They should be as your compressed measurement should be around 16" but it may vary! Id check to be sure if you are set on running that shock, otherwise get the 5100's and call it a day!
     
  10. Nov 30, 2011 at 7:11 AM
    #10
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    29,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '13 Ford F-150 SCREW
    F-150 Mod
    Call Downsouth Motorsports and talk to those guys. They also sell the Icon 3-Leaf AAL which is the same as the Wheelers one if you want to get everything at the same place.
    Also, read the bottom of page 7 and top of page 8 of this thread:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/167652-busted-my-5100-a-8.html
     
  11. Dec 20, 2011 at 1:16 PM
    #11
    moulin6801

    moulin6801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34027
    Messages:
    261
    Gender:
    Male
    Hey AdamW, Did you get the AAL done?? Which way did you go and what results have you had??
    I have a 2010 TRD sport and got the TSB done. Now that sagged, I want to add a little more lift. I want to do the AAL 2", as you did. My question is: Did you change shocks?? I have the Black shocks that they installed with the TSB. I am wondering if I need to order the Bilsteins or the black one is fine.
    Did it change the ride much when you added a AAL to the TSB?
    Thanks
    David
     
  12. Dec 20, 2011 at 1:16 PM
    #12
    moulin6801

    moulin6801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34027
    Messages:
    261
    Gender:
    Male
  13. Dec 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM
    #13
    adamw

    adamw [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Member:
    #49891
    Messages:
    125
    Gender:
    Male
    sunnyvale, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 prerunner SR5 6spd
    I still have not done this yet. but dont have the tsb done so I would just be adding the 1.5 aal. if you are leaving the tsb in and then adding another aal i think you will be needing shocks at that point.
     
To Top