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REASON FOR THE 2.7L...??

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by gray223, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Jan 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM
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    gray223

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    Why even make the 2.7L when the v6 gets only 2 maybe 3 less mpg in town, but has 60+ more HP and torque. I just don't see much point I guess. Wondering what's everyone's opinion on this.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2014 at 7:36 PM
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    Different truck configurations. Not everybody needs/ wants a V6. Money and usage are factors.
     
  3. Jan 8, 2014 at 8:19 PM
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    I don't need 60+ more hp/torque and get way better than 2 or 3 mpg.


    Why the V6?
     
  4. Jan 8, 2014 at 10:22 PM
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    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.

    I always buy the cheapest base model truck with the fewest options, so I like the little 4 banger. :) Last fill up (town/freeway mix, winter blend) was 25.3 mpg. And my truck isn't all that slow either... ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvIBURPwtXw
     
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  5. Jan 8, 2014 at 11:16 PM
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    The 2 to 3 mpg were based on the 2014 specs 4x4 automatic. The only difference was the v6 got 2 less mpg city and one less combined. www.toyota.com
     
  6. Jan 8, 2014 at 11:34 PM
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    Not saying you had to get the v6, there is always the 2.4L
     
  7. Jan 9, 2014 at 4:14 AM
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    I think that initial cost probably plays a large part. I'm sure that the 2.7 is a lot cheaper to manufacture and toyota recognizes that not everyone needs the v6 and so offers the 2.7 and passes the savings on to the consumer.
     
  8. Jan 9, 2014 at 6:34 AM
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    Its also a simpler engine, easier to work on, reduced maintenance cost...etc

    I also like that the first Toyota pickups were 4 cyl, and they continue this tradition as the only 4 cyl 4x4 pickup
     
  9. Jan 9, 2014 at 8:05 AM
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    I'm a bottom feeder who always goes for the cheapest model with the fewest options because it still utilizes exactly the same Toyota mechanical engineering as the most expensive model. It's just smaller and has less doodads. My new 2012 was $19k out the door. As a cheap economical reliable bare bones work service vehicle, Toyotas are unsurpassed. :)
     
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  10. Jan 9, 2014 at 9:18 AM
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  11. Jan 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM
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    The v6 was only a grand more on the website. I'm sure there different at the dealers.
     
  12. Jan 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM
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    I never said that's the real price. That was just what I saw.
     
  13. Jan 9, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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    Dad has an 09 2.7L manual. Definitely see the reason for having that motor in their lineup. And when you said that people can just get the 2.4, they don't offer that in any 6-lug option.
     
  14. Jan 9, 2014 at 10:41 AM
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    2.4 in a 2nd gen??
     
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    Can't hate on the 2.7. Its such a great option for our trucks. For the guy that only tows a couple of wheelers to his riding spot and drives home from college every other weekend. Not right for everyone that's for sure however the reliability out of these 4 banngers is arguably better then any other trucks power plant. With all the stuff i have done to my truck i would like to see a v6 taco get 23.5 - 25 mpg's on the highway. 2.7's UNITE!
     
  16. Jan 9, 2014 at 6:32 PM
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    I think a lot of guys are taking your question as an insult. But I will try to answer it more as a question of business strategy on Toyota's part. The smaller engine option are always more popular with fleet customers. Let's take orkin for example b/c they run the reg cab 4 cyl as their work trucks.
    Let's say orkin is going to purchase 300 trucks for their fleet. @ $1000 per truck if only the 6 cyl was offered that's $300,000 they just saved when purchasing their fleet. Plus the 4 cyl requires less maintenance than the 6 cyl. Plus the 4cyl gets better fuel economy. So all this is factored into their business plan.
    All the manufacturers have a base engine in their business plan for just this reason. To us as private owners it's only $20 a month but to a business it can mean big bucks. Most of the guys with 4 bangers on here are in my estimation either really loyal to Yota 4cyls or Cheap asses. No offense intended to anyone b/c I fall into both categories.
     
  17. Jan 9, 2014 at 6:34 PM
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    In stock configuration the 2.7 vs the 3.4 power/displacement/weight/fuel efficiency ratio makes the 3.4 the best option if you only care about power and displacement. when you factor it all in, the 2.7 is a banging little motor.
     
  18. Jan 9, 2014 at 6:41 PM
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    I know one reason...

    If you're comparing models with manual transmissions, the four cylinder gets anywhere from 6-10 mpg better than the V6 at freeway speeds, depending on configuration. Ever drive a six speed at 75 mph? Turning four litres at 2700 rpm is not only noisy, it'll try to burn 7 gallons in a hundred miles. Six gallons if the wind is at your back. With the four cylinder, even with four wheel drive, I can do a hundred miles on five gallons or less when cruising at that speed.

    If Toyota would have used a better transmission, I might have kept that truck.
     
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    Cheap ass here. ;)


    I chose the base 2.7 2x4 5 lug 5 speed manual as my fleet vehicle even though my fleet is only one vehicle.
     

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