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Recommended suspension kit.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by senzubeans, May 28, 2025.

  1. May 28, 2025 at 7:12 PM
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    OldSchlPunk

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    Nope, not for Tacomas.
     
  2. May 28, 2025 at 8:42 PM
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    I tried those on my first gen Tacoma. (They make, or at least made, a model that works with Tacomas.)

    AAL’s are definitely worth the extra work. Even short single leaf AAL’s ride better than those. Plus, as the leaves flex (but it interferes with the leaves doing their job, because the leaves to slide against each other) the Hellwigs tend to shift and/or loosen and then clunk. (And if I remember correctly,) if you tighten them enough to not start clunking, they ride horribly.
     
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    Thank you guys for all the opinions and comments. I have decided to go with the Dobinsons Suspension System
    Here is the upgrade I have done:

    Front Springs:
    • C59-314 (RED) – (50mm-2.0″) Stock front end
    Front Struts:
    • IMS59-50220 Monotube IFP
    Rear Leaf Springs:
    • L59-112-R – (55mm/2.1″) 800lb Load
    Rear Shocks:
    • IMS59-50940 Monotube IFP
    Front Suspension Parts:
    Rear Suspension Parts:
    • Rear Polyurethane Leaf Spring Bushings | PB59-1101K
    • U-Bolts | UB59-453-2K
    • DuroBumps Rear Bump Stops (3.5 Inches Tall) | DBR35TU
    • Fishbone Offroad Degree Shim 2.5 Inch Wide x 2.5 Degree Steel (PAIR) | FB27369
    • Greenlane Offroad Differential Drop Kit | DIFF-DRPKIT
    • Old Man Emu Fitment Kit | FK29
     
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  4. May 29, 2025 at 2:49 PM
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    That's going to be a nice setup. IMO, the sway bar relocate and diff drop are not necessary. The Dobinsons tophats are expensive, KYB makes some that are half the price and can be gotten through just about any parts place. If you're getting the shocks pre-assembled, you probably don't have the option.
     
  5. May 29, 2025 at 4:15 PM
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    Nice!
     
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    OME is trash. IDK where the divide is but at some point in the late 2010s they started cranking out absolute garbage that squeaks like a frat house mattress. This is speaking from naive experience. I have a similar setup to you and didn't know any better and went with OME. The kit made it less than 50k miles before the springs were shot and the shocks were leaking. The leafs also became "W" shaped after about 40k miles. I ended up replacing all of it and couldn't be happier with the Iron man foam cells and HD leafs that I'm running. So far have about 10k miles on the the setup and it's a night and day difference. Handles so much better and is dead quiet.
     
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    Can you explain why? Krave builder give me that build, and for KYB even though Im new with this with the research I have done, I don't know that brand so far I was just looking for my top 7 which is Blistein, Fox, Dobinsons, Eibach, Elka, OME and Westcott. Krave builder give me option between Blistein, Elka, Eibach and Dobinsons. With the tariff in effect and me being in Canada Eibach is $400 cheaper with Dobinsons, I went with Dobinson with the much more good review and the rated weight on my rig.
     
  8. May 29, 2025 at 4:56 PM
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    Yeah, something happened to the Krave builder I was talking to that wat he did not suggest getting OME
     
  9. May 29, 2025 at 5:00 PM
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    That suspension will net you 2-2 1/2" of lift. Well within the working range of the CVs. The sway bar still works fine also with that lift, nothing will hit and nothing will get stressed.

    Other than firmer springs, that's the setup I've had on my truck for 2 years now. Well, TBH, I pulled my sway bar last summer...
     
  10. May 29, 2025 at 5:02 PM
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    is that going to be bad with the setup up and should I talk to the builder at Krave?
     
  11. May 29, 2025 at 5:05 PM
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    No, just not necessary. Extra parts, extra labor. Not a huge amount, but extra.
     
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    Thank you for the look out with the CAD 100, for those, I think it is fine.
     
  13. May 29, 2025 at 6:05 PM
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    You will be happier with normal rubber leaf spring bushings. Poly bushings tend to squeak. I’ve been down that road — I switched to poly bushings thinking it would be an upgrade, and then switched back pretty quickly. And yes, I greased the hell out of them.

    Also, a diff drop is 100% unnecessary. Won’t hurt anything, but it’s not necessary at all for 2 to 2.5 inches lift.

    A leaf spring shim is PROBABLY not needed. It won’t hurt to install it, and it’s possible you might be one of the VERY small minority of trucks that could benefit from it, but note it will lift you another 3/8” in rear.

    You can also reduce your drive shaft angle by a little bit with a carrier bearing drop, and that won’t lift your rear more.

    Finally, since you are switching to aftermarket off-road leaf springs, you probably want to extend your rear brake lines to avoid them being pulled taught by the additional droop. I haven’t referenced your chosen rear shocks to see what their extended length is, but if they were spec’d for 2+ inches of lift you will want extended brake lines.

    You don’t have 800 lbs extra over the rear axle right now, so expect more than 2.1” of lift from those springs and a firmer ride.

    With 2+ inches of lift, you might find that your current tires look too small. If you decide to upsize them, keeping your OE wheels and running “pizza cutter” 33’s will save you from having to do lots of cutting in your front wheel wells to keep the tires from rubbing.

    Note that upsizing your tires and carrying around the weight and wind resistance of a camper will make your truck feel less powerful. This is the rabbit hole of bigger tires I was telling you about. Regearing is really expensive. I have a camper and 33’s and regeared from 3.73 to 4.30. 4.54 is probably more appropriate on a steep hill or a good headwind.
     
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    Also, if you haven’t made the purchase yet, find Overland Outfitters’ blind tests of aftermarket Tacoma shock upgrades on Youtube. For the budget, you might want to give the Bilsteins a second look.
     
  15. May 29, 2025 at 6:30 PM
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    I will definitely take a look with those brake line extend the rubber bushing thank you! For the wheel side Im not planning to upgrade it sooner as the suspension it self will take me CAD 6k but what do you mean by “pizza cutter 33s” ? Its my first time hearing it.
     
  16. May 29, 2025 at 6:36 PM
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    Yes that was my initial quote if you take a look on the page 1 of this trend my first choice was definitely the Blistein but I was also considering the weight I have the the future I will be adding
     
  17. May 29, 2025 at 8:34 PM
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    “Pizza cutter” 33’s are 255/85/16’s for your wheels, or 255/80/17’s for 17” wheels.

    There are lots of threads regarding so-called pizza cutters on Tacomaworld. When paired with positive offset wheels like what you already have, you can generally run 33” pizza cutters on Tacomas with minimal or no trimming of the front wheel wells. If you were to try to run wider 33” tires, or a 33” tire on zero offset or negative offset wheels, you would have to significantly trim the rear areas of your front wheel wells.

    “Pizza cutters” also exhibit superior deformation when running low tire pressures off-road or on fire roads, producing more traction.

    Here is a photo of 255/80/17 pizza cutters (33’s) on my truck with ~2” lift. Those are 4runner wheels (7.5” wide, +15 offset). If you search for images of Tacomas with 33” pizza cutters on 16 inch wheels, you will see the tires look bigger, due to the smaller wheel size.

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    +1 for Dobinson IMS, Greenlane Offroad, and pizza cutters (255/80/17)!

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