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reh5108's 4 Banging SHITBOX tUrBo 4x4 Build

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Reh5108, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. Apr 2, 2019 at 6:11 AM
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    Awesome report Ryan, glad you got the fuel issue sorted and were still able to make the trip. Also I remember always being nervous about your's and @Wishbone Runner 's pups on the trail even though I knew they would get out of the way like in the one video. :rofl: I tend to helicopter parent mine and just throw her in the truck if we are doing technical stuff. I should let her out on a small trail with a group and see how she does.
     
  2. Apr 2, 2019 at 9:00 AM
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    Thanks! My skills have come a long way since buying this truck. I've learned a lot and I'm sure I'll continue. I'm glad it's relatively simple and easy to work on. By no means am I great at welding but I can't think of any that have failed. It's the awkward position and hard to get to or see places that are the ugliest. With all the information out there on the internet there really isn't anything anyone can't learn if they are willing to put the time in.
     
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  3. Apr 2, 2019 at 9:14 AM
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    I like being able to hear incase there is something going on. It's bad enough I can't see without finding my glasses first if there was an emergency of some sort.

    The technical sections are when we are going slow so it gives them a chance to get out of a bouncing truck.
     
  4. Apr 2, 2019 at 11:41 AM
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    That is very true
     
  5. Apr 5, 2019 at 9:53 PM
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    Decided to pull my winch apart and give it a cleaning and regrease it. Things looked pretty cruddy inside and some rust was starting to form. Definitely a messy progect.


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    The motor side of things looked pretty clean so I didn't bother disassembling further.
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    Control box doesn't look the greatest but it still works...
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  6. Apr 9, 2019 at 10:03 PM
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    My mpg has increased with the turbo! Last two tanks were 20 and 21.

    Ran Chinaman Gulch on Monday and the turbo helps keep the truck from stalling out as quickly. It actually hits boost right before stalling. Just before it stalls if I let the clutch slip a bit to bring the rpms back up and let the clutch grab again I have boost power!

    My truck actually starts now when I use the clutch start cancel in finesse spots. Kind of annoying, I liked complete electric power!

    My ARB started throwing fits and not sealing up again twice on this trail. About to give up on this crawling shit and become an Overland Bound member, by some maxitracs and fill my fridge with some LA Croix.


    As for Chinaman, it gets more difficult every year. More and more rocks are becoming annoying axle grabbers for 33's. Can't believe 4 years ago I did it open open and no tcase skid.


    We arrived well after dark so waking up in the morning to this awful view was a nice surprise. A heard of about 20 elk came through the field. They're in the pic, it might be time to upgrade to a real camera soon. Most of the heard had already crossed the fence line but there was a cow and calf that were hanging back. The calf had come to a seemingly impassable impass when it encountered the fence. The cow hopped the fence with ease and began slowly working her way back to the herd and the calf frantically started running down the fence line trying to figure it out. Later I learned there were coyotes not far from it. Eventually it came to the conclusion that it could slip in between the fence wires and reunite with its mother.

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    20190408_065919 by Ryan Heintzelman - Flickr2BBcode



    My buddy who had walked away from camp was watching the coyotes that were somewhere behind the heard. He somehow had no clue the elk were there even though he captured them in his picture of the mountains. :facepalm:


    My roommates 4r on 37s struggling here when my 33's and ifs made it up relatively easily, silly SAS! Everything else he made look easy though.
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    He did get pretty close to making this obstacle. If his rear bumper wasn't so low I think he might have gotten it.
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  7. Apr 17, 2019 at 8:26 PM
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    Installed an EGT guage in place of the clock. I'm still not confident the stock ecu can safely handle 5 psi. Maybe if the turbo doesn't build boost until north of 4500 rpms. That seems to be the only time I see below 12 afr. Anyone know how hot is too hot for a gas engine?

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  8. Apr 18, 2019 at 8:22 PM
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    After some research 1600°F seems to be the max exhaust gas temperature in the manifold. My sensor is mounted just after the turbine which can apparently be 200°-300° less than in the manifold. I saw 1450° as a max, add 200° to that and it's well over 1600°.

    I parked and shut the truck off and immediately put a temp gun on the manifold and it read 150° less than where the probe is after the turbo. Maybe the heat soaked back to the block by the time I hit it with the temp gun :notsure:

    Motor hasn't blown up yet. Trying to keep it below 1400°. In most conditions when the ecu kicks into open loop the egts drop pretty fast even with an afr of 13.1. In closed loop I can be in 3psi of boost and have egts in the 1300s with the ecu maintaining a constant 14.7:1 afr. Maybe I'm missing something but I feel like an EGT guage gives a better idea if you're within safe limits of the motor rather than an afr guage.
     
  9. Apr 18, 2019 at 9:10 PM
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    HomerTaco ...................................................................................................................................................... Core-Hurst short throw shifter & T-handle / Carbon Fiber Interior / custom console light / De-badged / leather interior / Heated Front seats / Red Line Hood Struts / Painted speaker grills /one-off TRD Satoshi Grill with 12-15 front-end swap/ Pioneer AVIC-X920BT HU / Scangauge II / Black LED Tails / Dash Mount for iPad mini / Safari Snorkel / Auto-pilot mode / Leer 100XQ Cap / 4x Innovations sliders / Rear Diff Breather Mod / front windows tinted to 35% / Brute Force Fab Hybrid Front Bumper / BAMF Rear Diff Skid / Budbuilt Skids / CBI Trail Master 2.0 rear hybrid bumper / Fox rr coils/ TC UCA's/ TC spindle gussets/ TC Cam Tab gussets / Dakar leafs / Defined Engineering shackles / All pro U bolt flip / Timbren Rear Bumpstops / BAMF LCA skids / Exhaust re-route / Fog Light anytime Mod / LowRange Off Road extended rear brake lines / ATO Shackle Flip / sectioned Bushwhacker flares / re-geared to 4.56 / ARB Front & Rear Locking Diff / ARB CKMA12 compressor / PrInSu full rack system / 1" body lift / Inchworm 4.7 crawlbox / twin stick FJ t-case / Davez off-road triple-stick kit/
    Sounds too hot to me. :notsure:
     
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  10. Apr 18, 2019 at 9:18 PM
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    I've been doing a lot of this :notsure:
     
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  11. Apr 22, 2019 at 8:43 PM
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    3RZ (and most 5VZ) FPR’s are different from what you typically think. They aren’t vacuum operated and are generally fixed at 45 psi so there is no change when you unhook it. Strange setup but :notsure:

    1450 sustained is pretty toasty. A spike to 1600 for a few seconds is far better than sustaining 1450+ over Loveland. If you’re smart with it, you won’t hurt anything.

    The biggest thing to help EGT for your application would be a charge air cooler. Air directly out of a turbo is really really hot and will drive EGT’s up a bunch.
     
  12. Apr 23, 2019 at 8:44 AM
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    Thanks for the insight. The popular opinion on custom tacos is that the FPR is a rising rate 1:1 ratio. I haven't seen any data to back it up yet.

    I'm finding anything below 4500rpm in open loop stays between 12.5-13.5 afr, after 4500rpm I see afrs I'm happy with in the 11s. I did a 3rd gear pull uphill this morning and was hitting 11.1 afr at 5000rpms. EGTs were holding around 1450.

    Intercooler is up next after I get my airbox made to get the corrugated tube out of there.

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  13. Apr 23, 2019 at 10:36 AM
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    Lots of misinformation out there on the FPR vacuum hose because its not a vacuum hose at all. It's just a vent to the intake before the throttle body. For whatever reason Toyota does not use manifold pressure to reference for fuel pressure on the 3RZ/5VZ. Gadget has posted about it in the past. I was bamboozled trying to figure out the FPR hose one day in the garage and went down a deep, dark, rabbit hole of research.
     
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  14. Apr 27, 2019 at 11:43 AM
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    This week on Ryan Redneck Garage we build a smoke vacuum leak tester! Now go on inside and grab one of ma's favorite cookie tins. Drill two holes, one to push a hose into and the other for a male air coupling. Now grab that empty box of Busch Lite (Mountain Dew box works just as good, just not as enjoyable) and tear it up and start a fire in the bottom of the can.

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    I used this fancy leak down tester as a regulator so I wasn't blasting 150psi of air into this thing.

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    I found the source of my p0442 code I've been getting.

    https://youtu.be/Grl3QY_KwDk



    And incase you didn't know paint cans are made of plastic now. :D

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  15. Apr 27, 2019 at 2:18 PM
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    Brilliant! We’ve always used sagrit smoke but these days it costs too much to get enough smoke using them, price and lung tissue. What psi did you regulate it to?
     
  16. Apr 27, 2019 at 2:53 PM
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    I'm not sure, didn't look at the guage but I bet it was less than 5psi. An inline filter probably wouldn't be a bad idea either to keep from pushing ash into your hoses.
     
  17. Apr 28, 2019 at 5:57 AM
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    That’s freaking awesome. :thumbsup:
     
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  18. Apr 28, 2019 at 7:31 PM
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  19. May 5, 2019 at 9:02 PM
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    Put in a new radiator hose since the old one interfered with the intake coupler. I think it's out of a Pontiac Vibe. Gates part number 23528. It's not a perfect fit but close enough.

    Problem
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    Problem solved
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    New airbox, still need to make a gasket to seal it. I think with the BOV return being so close to the MAF sensor it messes with it and the truck stalls when closing the throttle quickly. Only really an issue when coming up to a stop. Going to try a splitter bov that will vent to atmosphere and recirculate. Hopefully recirculating 25% will keep the truck from stalling. If not I'll live with it until I have a piggyback or standalone to tune it out.

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  20. May 6, 2019 at 8:42 PM
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    Not sure what this is on piston #4 but I'll keep an eye on it. The rest look pretty good. There is some light vertical scouring in every cylinder which I'm guessing is why my compression is on the low side.

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    2019-05-06_12-23-54 by Ryan Heintzelman - Flickr2BBcode

    Drove the truck around BLM land near Kremmling. I definitely need to fix the stalling issue. It's fine on the street but when hauling ass off road and needed to brake hard and slow down it stalls almost every time.

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