Reinstall swaybar for service?

I had a tech give me guff over the k&n filter during a warranty repair once. I questioned the oiled trd air filter/ trd intake as it's the same thing. They had no rebuttal.

 

I can't say I have never heard of the system not functioning as designed by the engineers. I find it to be unnecessary at best, and could be down right dangerous to the point of being deadly at worst.

It's not going to save that much fuel and that fuel savings isn't going to have an impact on the environment one way or the other.

I recall that it was determined to be byproduct of regulation.


As for sway bars I don't care what people do. On road performance is enhanced by an anti rollbar and offroad performence is hindered by them.

 

The start/stop is deadly????

 

It's a waste of microprocessors and an added expense to the vehicle.

 

Could be.

What if you are sitting in stopped traffic and a fuel tanker is barreling down on you from behind and that tanker has a faulty steering shaft and can't maneuver out of the way?

That few second delay, or lack of could be what determines if you live or die.

 

Few seconds? Our highlander has the engine running before my foot can make it from the brake to the gas pedal.

SAE says 8% fuel savings. Having been to Cali and seeing the shit cloud permanently hanging over the city I can buy into the need to stop shit from coming out of our cars when they are not actively operating

 

So does anyone know why Tacomas don’t come with rear sway bar? It is because of the light weight in the back?

As far as I know, 4Rs and FJs all come with front and rear.

 

My guess would be the leaf springs are rigid enough to keep the axle straight. Those SUV probably could get by with with out the rear sway bar but the linked rear might also have more articulation at a faster rate.

 

Disbarment of the SAE would probably do more to clean the air than the so called 8% in fuel savings. Not that I'm advocating for their disbarment.

How much resources go into the manufacturing of the start stop system? There's a processor wiring a button an LED in the button a indicator on the dash.

 

If they ask tell them the swaybar is in the shop getting the fluid flushed.

 

8% saves me 55 gallons of gasoline per YEAR.

There is no extra computer, it's just a few lines of code in the computer that is already running the starter.

I don't think the button took the equivalent of 50 gallons of gas to manufacture.

 

Ok, well you either have a start/stop system that is bad or you are talking about a golfcart that fires the engine up when you hit the gas pedal. Other than feeling the engine fire up as you release the brake, there is no difference. I'm sure you also leave your tailgate down for better MPG.

 

Mine works fine I also drove a Silverado with it, it worked fine. I have seen automotive reviews where the reviewers srated that different vehicles have different lag times. Sometimes in real world situations you have to safely take calculated risks to make left hand turns to keep from getting rear ended and keep the traffic behind you flowing.

The potential gains what ever those are. Do not seem to be worth the potential loss of what the start stop feature accomplishes, and you are paying more for it.

 

Manufacturers deleted the feauture when they couldn't get semiconductors. They deemed it a waste of semi conductors when the supply was low.

 

And heated seats and steering wheels, so don't waste semi conductors on that either.

I do believe we have gotten WAY off the threads topic lol

 

Yeah start stop will save the world! I can warm my car up for 20 minutes, twice in the driveway, but it better turn off for 2 seconds at every stop to save gas! I'm really saving the environment while it's convenient for me.

 

I believe because of the rear leaf springs. When The Tacoma goes to the link rear suspension it will be necessary.

 

That just goes to show that we -need- topic sway bars to keep us on track.

Anyway (for the OP)… it all comes down to $$$. Dealers (probably) don’t like warranty work, because Toyota decides how much (or little) they get paid for the work. And Toyota (probably) doesn’t like warranty claims, because it costs them time and money. So you have two parties with a viable incentive to ‘deny’ claims. (Toyota wants to minimize costs and the dealer wants to maximize income.)

For bringing your truck in for service (oil change), as others have said, probably very low risk. For warranty work on your radio display, also probably low risk. For warranty work on the front diff ADD, it might be noticed.

Same with the ‘liability’ argument - it’s all about the $$$.

 

Don't install heated seats and wheels in vehicles than. I can accept that, those features are nice. I've never had a heated wheel, I've had heated seats and don't really use them, it doesn't get that cold here for me to deem them necessary. They warmth is nice on your back and the heat might be more usefull on a cold surface like leather and vinyl. In a colder climate heated amenities are probably much more desirable, and I think are a better feature than auto start stop.