1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

reloading bs thread

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by 95 taco, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    3,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '10 4x4 DC SR5
    WeatherTech liners, Kenwood Media Receiver, Alpine S 6x9 speakers, Sound Ordnance 8" Sub, OEM running boards, OR wheels, Dynapro ATs, Tint, Bed Mat, Avid light bar, KC Daylighters
    40 cal Glocks make me nervous in general. Brass shouldn't bulge like that. You can always buy an aftermarket barrel with a fully supported chamber and spiral cut rifling so you never have to worry about lead or reloads...

    I load:
    38 Spl
    45 ACP
    223 Rem
    32-20 WCF
    300 BLK
    308 Win

    I don't load 9mm, even though I shoot a lot of it, because I do everything on a single-stage RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme and the savings aren't worth my time.
     
  2. MontanaTaco

    MontanaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Member:
    #33941
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Colter
    Bozeman,MT
    Vehicle:
    4x4 08 Trd Sport
    OME lift
    38/357
    223/5.56
    257 Roberts AI ( most accurate gun I own )
    300 win mag
    12 gauge

    And as Ben said the hand primer works amazing compared to the press primer, at least for me. I've been known to destroy many primers using the press.
     
  3. Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,109
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    Tundra, double cab.
    LED interior lights, stubby antenna, Pioneer in dash screen
    Never used a press primer. We always had the RCBS hand priming tool.

    I need to get a powder dispenser. I have a scale but individually weighing each round takes FOREVER!
     
  4. MontanaTaco

    MontanaTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Member:
    #33941
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Colter
    Bozeman,MT
    Vehicle:
    4x4 08 Trd Sport
    OME lift
    The RCBS automatic charge dispenser works wonders, perfect amount of powder every time!
     
  5. tigerfan00

    tigerfan00 BECAUSE INTERNETS!! Thor

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Member:
    #5966
    Messages:
    37,014
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    Dunkin Donuts
    Vehicle:
    02 TRD 4x4

    didnt make me nervous until i started reading up on reloading etc...the general consensus is that either you have to load the minimum and buy a $75 part to try and flatten the bulge out

    I have no interest in buying a 2nd barrel for an issued gun...so i think i'll just stick to buying factory stuff and stockpiling it for .40

    If i find a good deal on a press i might still buy it but i don't shoot enough of anything else right now to make it worth my while
     
  6. Afwrestler1986

    Afwrestler1986 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2008
    Member:
    #6768
    Messages:
    3,684
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Johnstown, NY
    Vehicle:
    01 trd 4X4 ex cab manual
    Gray wire, Some lights in the bed area, and some character marks throughout.
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121744/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-kit

    So, I was looking for a cheap startup, found this.

    I don't need a progressive press, just want to take my time. looking to load .204 ruger to start. then move up to my big bores. I know I need a few more things that do not come with the kit, but the price is better for my budget. Any opinions? keeping in mind it isn't top of the line and I know there are much better options out there for more $$$.
     
  7. Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    3,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '10 4x4 DC SR5
    WeatherTech liners, Kenwood Media Receiver, Alpine S 6x9 speakers, Sound Ordnance 8" Sub, OEM running boards, OR wheels, Dynapro ATs, Tint, Bed Mat, Avid light bar, KC Daylighters
    I'd skip it. It's a collection of the cheapest stuff you could possibly buy - is that what you want to start with? The press isn't bad, though I like the RCBS Rock Chucker a lot more. If you love that press, I'd go with this setup:

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/176078/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/758842/rcbs-model-505-magnetic-powder-scale-511-grain-capacity

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/329291/rcbs-hand-priming-tool

    This gives you an OK press, quality primer tool and quality scale. Add dies, a shellholder and you can reload new brass. Add a tumbler and a trimmer of some type (can be as cheap as a Lee hand trimmer for a few bucks) and you can reload used brass. If you're starting with 204 Ruger, you can get away with measuring each load so you won't need a powder measure for a while until you start reloading in serious volume.

    I highly recommend you spend a little more and start with quality gear that will serve as a foundation for a setup, not crap gear that you will just want to/need to replace in a year. I shoot quite a bit and still get by with a single stage press, though I've had my eye on a Hornady Lock N Load recently.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    3,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '10 4x4 DC SR5
    WeatherTech liners, Kenwood Media Receiver, Alpine S 6x9 speakers, Sound Ordnance 8" Sub, OEM running boards, OR wheels, Dynapro ATs, Tint, Bed Mat, Avid light bar, KC Daylighters
    Yeah, I would not run an aftermarket barrel on a dept gun, and I wouldn't switch them back and forth for a lot of reasons, so I'd stick with factory. Don't most departments offer an allotment for training/practice ammo?

    The die that flattens out Glock 40 brass doesn't solve the problem of bulging brass in the first place of course, it just allows you to reload it. So overpressure reloads are still a no-no for the factory Glock 40 S&W chamber.
     
  9. Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    3,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '10 4x4 DC SR5
    WeatherTech liners, Kenwood Media Receiver, Alpine S 6x9 speakers, Sound Ordnance 8" Sub, OEM running boards, OR wheels, Dynapro ATs, Tint, Bed Mat, Avid light bar, KC Daylighters
  10. Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,109
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    Tundra, double cab.
    LED interior lights, stubby antenna, Pioneer in dash screen

    pretty interesting! nice post
     
  11. Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    3,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '10 4x4 DC SR5
    WeatherTech liners, Kenwood Media Receiver, Alpine S 6x9 speakers, Sound Ordnance 8" Sub, OEM running boards, OR wheels, Dynapro ATs, Tint, Bed Mat, Avid light bar, KC Daylighters
    :thumbsup: Only downside is that the dies sometimes don't fit back in the die boxes just right.
     
  12. Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,109
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    Tundra, double cab.
    LED interior lights, stubby antenna, Pioneer in dash screen
    do these work on the RCBS rock chucker? Is it really that much of a pain to swap dies when you need to load something different?

    Ill mostly be doing only 223 and 9mm. maybe 22-250 down the road
     
  13. Workman

    Workman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Member:
    #32863
    Messages:
    260
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    06 access cab, off road, V6
    When it comes to reloading, Workman uses a handheld Lee Loader. A cheap, very portable, very effective, and proven way to reload ammo. Workman likes the old school nature of Lee Loaders.

    Workman reloads his .223, .243, 7mm, .357mag, and 30-06 all using different Lee Loader kits. They are handheld, and can pretty much fit in any back pocket. It takes Workman around a minute per shell to reload any of these calibers. Not fast enough for some folks. When it takes that long to reload a shell though, you make that one count during practice or hunting. Workman took his Elk this year using a 30-06 shell he reloaded by hand, damn that felt good. Workman's Lee loaded ammo is way better than anything you buy off the shelf.

    Workman grew up around bench loaders, and finds them great if you have the space and are in a permanent spot. They are much faster, and easier to reload with. Workman gets more satisfaction out of pounding out ammo on Lee Loader though. Check em out sometime.
     
  14. Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    3,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '10 4x4 DC SR5
    WeatherTech liners, Kenwood Media Receiver, Alpine S 6x9 speakers, Sound Ordnance 8" Sub, OEM running boards, OR wheels, Dynapro ATs, Tint, Bed Mat, Avid light bar, KC Daylighters
    I use it in my rock chucker supreme - you can see it in my pic above. Your older rock chucker should work as long as you have a threaded bushing in your press. I don't know if the older ones did or not, but now just about all presses do. You should be able to tell easily if you look at the threads on your press. If they're mahined directly into the green cast metal, it won't work. If you have a steel hex bushing with threads in it, then it should work. You have to muscle that bushing out of your press with a big pipe wrench and replace it with the one from the kit.

    As far as the regular ring system being a pain, it is for me. When you use a normal lock ring on your dies, it not only sets the depth of your dies but it also creates the torque that keeps the die in place on the press. When you have to switch out a die, I'd often have to take a wrench to the lock ring, and the lock ring would invaribly move, which for me caused way too much variance when I'd put the die back for my next round.

    The Hornady setup has locking lugs like the bolt on an ar-15, so you drop the die/bushing in and in 1/8 twist it's locked in place. The die lock ring maintains its interface with the die bushing and so the die seat depth never changes.

    I loaded my first several thousand rounds without the Lock-n-Load bushing setup, and I lament all the wasted time I spent adjusting die depth before I figured out how well the bushing setup works.
     
  15. NorCal Taco

    NorCal Taco Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2011
    Member:
    #53442
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mitch
    Misawa-Shi Aomori, Japan
    Vehicle:
    Black 09 DC Sport
    Yeah, the lock n load setup is pretty sweet. I bought extra sets for all my dies and never take them off. I just made sure the shells measured dead nuts to where I wanted them and locked that bushing down. Then whenever I start a new batch I just measure the first one through the press and then about every 50 after that.

    I would recommend holding off until you can get a quality setup. I've wasted lots of money trying to save a few bucks and getting complete junk when I should have gone with a reputable item. Personally, I don't want to skimp on anything when I'm squeezing bullets and powder into a shell that's 3 feet from my face!
     
  16. t4daddy

    t4daddy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2010
    Member:
    #39041
    Messages:
    4,908
    Gender:
    Male
    North Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2008 PreRunner Double Cab
    Why does Workman post in third person?
     
  17. Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,109
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    Tundra, double cab.
    LED interior lights, stubby antenna, Pioneer in dash screen
    Sweet. after I sell some of the stuff Im not needing Ill pick one up.

    Ive always wondered the same thing :laugh: He doesnt care though
     
  18. Richard Cranium

    Richard Cranium The lice...they hate the sugar

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2010
    Member:
    #47434
    Messages:
    2,499
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ted
    Omaha, NE
    Vehicle:
    2013 Raven FR-S
    Forever sideways and smiling :D
    So add in this...
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456506/lee-factory-crimp-die-223-remington

    and this...
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/786187?cm_vc=S014

    and one would be totally ready to reload, correct?
     
  19. t4daddy

    t4daddy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2010
    Member:
    #39041
    Messages:
    4,908
    Gender:
    Male
    North Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2008 PreRunner Double Cab
    And a few good reloading manuals.
     
  20. 98tacoma27

    98tacoma27 :POOPCORN: Thor

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    48,253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5, 88 SR5 PU, 98 TRD OR (CRUSHED)
    5100's all on fours
    One of your most important tools...
    [​IMG]
     
To Top