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Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas' started by Pinoiako916, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. Jan 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM
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    quick question, is it possible to shorten the overall length of a 1st generation extracab tacoma by relocating the leaf spring shackles to right behind the rear shocks? I may get a used tacoma in the long run and will convert it to a flatbed when doing this project

    Not shortening the wheelbase, just getting rid of the rear overhang past the rear shocks.
     
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  2. Jan 19, 2014 at 3:25 PM
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    You can cut the frame right after the rear shackle mounts. To move them forward yes,. you'd mess with things like differential placement, driveshaft length and stuff though
     
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    What you're saying is that moving the rear shackle mounts forward to just behind the rear shocks will cause complications? I am not trying to shorten the wheelbase. Its getting rid of the rear overhang where the spare tire is to be placed.
     
  4. Jan 19, 2014 at 3:33 PM
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    Im pretty sure you could chop off everything after the shackle mounts on the frame, but you can't just move them forward, the leaf springs are a set length that you can't change, and they need the right shackle angle to have a nice ride
     
  5. Jan 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM
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    What will you have to do in order to move the leaf spring shackle mounts to just behind the rear shocks? Do i need to get new rear leaf springs?

    I am not trying to shorten the wheelbase though.
     
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    How far forward are we talking?
     
  7. Jan 19, 2014 at 3:52 PM
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    Moving the rear leaf spring shackles to just right behind where the current stock rear shocks are.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM
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    What distance is that? Sounds like a no though :/
     
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    This is a second generation picture, my plan is to relocate the rear leaf springs just behind the stock rear shocks:

    image_1364574176076223.jpg
     
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    That's not possible. You'd have to remove the leaf springs and run a three link setup or something
     
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    Can you just get new rear leaf springs and shackles instead which are custom to that setup?
     
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    You could ask a leaf spring shop, but I doubt they make leafs that short on one side
     
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    It will be on both sides.
     
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    I would quit while you're ahead. first off, we got it: you're NOT TRYING TO SHORTEN THE WHEELBASE. Chopping the extraneous bed and rear fender isn't too crazy, a lot of guys that like to rock crawl have done it to get less rear drag when going over large obstacles. Its called bobbing the bed or a bed bob. you can cut everything off the rear from the rear shackle back.

    You CAN technically do what you're trying to do but it would cost way too much money and time to find correct length leafs with accurate rates and all that. I know the 95-97 Tacomas had slightly shorter leaf springs, if you're not going to let this go, look into how much shorter they are and how they altered the mounting points to reflect that change. maybe its just the little push forward you're looking for.
     
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    What about putting a 4-runner axle back there, which does not use leaf springs?
     
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    What your asking is NOT possible while still using leaf springs. Even if you could get a spring shop to build you custom leaf springs to fit like your describing, the ride and suspension characteristics would make the truck undriveable.

    The only realistic way of accomplishing that would be to eliminate the leaf springs altogether and setting up a 4-link rear suspension with coil springs like the 4Runner. That way everything behind the springs could be removed.

    I will say.....no disrespect intended.....that the fact that you are asking this question tells me that you have a very limited understanding of how suspension works. I would leave things as they are on your truck and just get some time behind the wheel while you understand how it all works.
     
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    Like these?:

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    I guess my question is why? What are you trying to accomplish?
     
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    eliminate the entire rear overhang behind the rear shocks by using a 4-link rear suspension with coil springs
     
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    Then do that?
    Also like box rocket said, it doesn't appear you are quite up to the task of linking the rear so think carefully before you chop apart the rear suspension. There's a lot of knowledge involved with it
     
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