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Remote start on manual tranny??

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Whitelightning77, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. Dec 27, 2010 at 8:19 AM
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    Whitelightning77

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    Hey boys, my buddy has a 2001 tacoma, v6, it has automatic locks, it has a viper keyless entry when he bought it. But when he was cleaning out his parents garage, he found a remote start made by bulldog security, but can he put it in with a manual transmission, with the clutch cancel and all that? And if not im gonna take it and put it on my automatic haha. So ya let me know thanks for your time.
     
  2. Dec 27, 2010 at 8:21 AM
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    He can he needs a bypass module, (usually anyway).


    There is a way, not sure about that brand though.
     
  3. Dec 28, 2010 at 6:03 PM
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    All he has to do is bypass the clutch safety...most clutch safety is just a push switch behind the clutch...but he better becareful not to leave his car in gear...lol my buddy had it on his car and his dad parked it in the garage and left it in gear...well he didn't know n started it up from his room, the car dam near came into the house...messed up the wall and the car pretty good...lol
     
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    Hate to be a spoiler here but he really should find a product that is already designed for use with a manual transmission. If he modifies one for an auto, and basically eliminates the safety interlocks that the manufacturer put there, then it's his liability. If someone were to get killed, it's likely that his insurance would cut him loose and he might even find himself up on criminal charges as well.

    I do appliance repair for a living and know of a case where another repair guy wound up facing manslaughter charges over a non-grounded outlet in someone's house. He didn't wire the outlet, the argument was that he should have unplugged the appliance and told the owner it was unsafe to use. Total BS charges, but those kind of scumbag lawyers are out there. If your buddy is smart he will do everything possible to get the liability off of him. I don't even think I would install something like this myself. I'm quite capable, but I would rather have a paper trail that leads to someone else in a situation like that.

    Okay, off my soapbox. Sorry!
     
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    thats why they dont make remote start systems for manual vehicles. or if you went to a stero/alarm shop they would not install
     
  6. Dec 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM
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    I think your mistaken here, i've seen plenty, my sister has one...
     
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    There are plenty of companies that make them but they are made to have 0% chance of a car being started in gear.

    I don't wanna disappoint you OP but bulldog systems are kinda chincy. They are made by DEI which is a good company but the bulldog units are crap. I stopped installing them years ago after so many times of them being or causing problems. But free is a good price!
     
  8. Dec 29, 2010 at 12:29 AM
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    I'm unsure about this Bulldog brand you speak of, you should find the model # and look up the manual online. Viper offers their manuals online and I've read that you have to do a specific sequence in order for your manual transmission vehicle to be remote started. (i.e. take vehicle out of gear, apply parking brake with foot still on brake, take foot off brake, exit vehicle, press arming button -- something like that)
     
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    Very true. Its actually illegal to install a remote start for an automatic transmission on a manual transmission because you have to manually bypass the clutch. That's a safety concern.

    This is not true. There are remote start systems designed SPECIFICALLY for manual transmissions, which have safety systems set in place. These systems are designed so that the vehicle will NOT start if certain precautions are not met (i.e. the vehicle in gear).

    That said, I've heard (no PERSONAL experience) that installing manual remote starts are more complicated and more expensive. I know of shops around here that won't do them for manual cars regardless of the legality aspect.
     
  10. Nov 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM
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    it's probably best not to do this... a friend of mine once put one in his manual Mits. Eclipse and when his g-friend started his car it was in gear. The car started, ran into his boat then stalled out. The remote start just thinks the engine never got started so it tries again... 5 times. It smashed his car into his boat 5 TIMES!

    Sooo, here is a good (but still illegal) workaround. I used this on my maxima for 15 years and it still works somehow. Use two N/O magnetic switches on the remote start kill wire, so that it grounds the wire (disableing the remote start) whenever the shifter is either in the forward position or pulled back. One side of the switch attaches to the shifter undernieth the boot and the other side attaches to two L brackets, one on the forward side and one on the back side of the shifter. Some cars may not have room for this under the shift boot though. Test it every once in a while to make sure the magnetic switches have not failed.
     
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    It would be simple to build a gear shift neutral switch if your worried about it starting in gear.

    Remote starters are great if you feel your vehicle might go boom when starting .

    I fail to see the interest in having one of these but what ever floats your boat.

    The clutch safety is the first thing eliminated on my vehicles.
     
  12. Nov 19, 2015 at 12:23 PM
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    This thread is 5 years old dude...
     
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    I hate when I don`t notice that !!
     
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