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Ride Quality

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by papabear050, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Apr 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM
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    papabear050

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    Hey Guys

    Thinking about getting the Billys 5100 adn setting them at 1.75"

    Anyhow, everything I read from my searches says it improves ride quality... ok

    But what does that mean.

    1. Does that refer to everyday street riding or off road?
    2. Does it make it stiffer or ride more like a Cadillac?
    3. What is the down travel at each setting?
    4. What is the down travel of the stock Sport Shocks?
    5. Is more down travel better for off roading or is the opposite true?

    Thanks for any help, trying to figure it out. I have the rear TSB done as well. The lift would be nice but I am wondering if the ride quality alone justifies the cost. Thanks and I know there are a billion threads, none answered my questions I had though.
     
  2. Apr 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM
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    After reading and searching through threads around here, 1500s is the best lift you can buy for your truck and not too pricey!
     
  3. Apr 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM
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    Icons, Bilstein 5100, Rear Leaf TSB, 17x9 American Racing Chamber Teflon, 275/70/17 Goodyear
    This is an excellent question, don't know how to answer though because I opted for Icons. I would have to assume they are nothing like a caddy though. They are going to be firmer, but more controlled. This is essence will make it feel smoother because it is better dampened.
    At least that how it was when I had it on my 03' Taco several years ago. I loved them.
     
  4. Apr 9, 2009 at 7:33 PM
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    So smoother and firmer... as in the soak up the little bumps better. Do they help in terms of bottoming out then?
    For some reason I can't get my mind around what it does that is better than the stock struts.

    I imagine firmer would be more harsh of a ride... on road.....
     
  5. Apr 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM
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    It is kinda like comparing a cadillac to a BMW. Cadillac being stock bouncy Tacoma and BMW being a car that is more solid handle all bumps and turns better and feels way more controlled.
     
  6. Apr 10, 2009 at 7:42 AM
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  7. Apr 10, 2009 at 8:10 AM
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    5100's are firmer but also much better dampened than the stock shocks. They eliminate the bouncy, jiggly ride, much more solid than stock.

    Read through the alignment threads before you decide to go with 1.75" lift, you'll need to replace your UCA's to get it aligned properly at that height.
     
  8. Apr 10, 2009 at 9:13 AM
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    So 85" would be the stock setting? Is this correct or will 85" give it a slight lift...

    Thanks all.
     
  9. Apr 10, 2009 at 9:15 AM
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    .85" will give it .85" of lift.
     
  10. Apr 10, 2009 at 9:16 AM
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    .85 would give you .85" of lift

    The stock setting is the bottom one.... no lift
     
  11. Apr 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM
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    That's the lowest lift setting, there is a bottom notch that is the same height as the stock shocks.
     
  12. Apr 10, 2009 at 10:08 AM
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    gotcha, thanks!
     
  13. Apr 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM
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    The reason most use them is a cheap form of lift for the front of the truck mostly to level. You have three settings for lift higher and one the same as stock struts, four settings in all. Stock, .85", 1.75", and 2.5" over stock. The higher the lift the firmer the ride account of spring preload. Compare the Bilstein 5100's or even the HD's to the Toyota factory TRD Bilstein or black stock factory shocks and you'll find they are almost twice the diameter, meaning more oil, running cooler no foaming, and better dampening for a smoother ride over bumps. IMO.
     
  14. Apr 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM
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    That's the first I heard this. Mine are set at 1.75" with the alignment done at the dealer. I haven't noticed any ill effects...
     
  15. Apr 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM
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    I'd like to get this cleared up as well- after the rear spring TSB my truck's rake is too severe. To correct this I'm planning on installing 5100s but not sure at which lift setting; at least .85" or maybe 1.75". If I need to swap out the UCAs for optimum alignment I want to take care of all this at once.
     
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  17. Apr 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM
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    After looking through the alignment threads it seems that .85" lift with Billies can be made without swapping the UCA. The UCA swap, however, allows for increased caster adjustment which can be marginal with .85" lift and needs to be corrected for lifts of 1.75" and up.
     
  18. Apr 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
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    Exactly, I've learned this through personal experience.
     
  19. Apr 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
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    My ride got stiffer, but I like it that way. (1.75 and 2.5)
     
  20. Apr 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM
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    So only need new UCA's if you want to go 1.75"
     
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