Rivian R1T Pickup

Thats a good question. I'm sure you could its just how much solar power generation would you need? If your camped for several days it seems doable?

 

The optional camp stove on the Rivian uses 2 miles of range for every hour of use. I don't see a fridge on the rivian gear page.

 

Id skip that and just use propane. That is cool though as is the storage tunnel between the bed and cab. Oh and the onboard compressor and AC power. All use some of the range though. It uses a common plug so the charging stations are already in place except for maybe the real boonies

 

Maybe they will sell external batteries for a charge boost (similar to having external gas can).

 

exactly. The hub motor is a super good idea, particularly for off road applications. You don't have to worry about CV issues or bind when going long travel. You can run IFS/IRS even LT with minimal parts. you don't have to pay RCV axle, spider trax , curry , or any other aftermarket gear company 10k+ for a capable crawler or 4x4 prerunner that actually has wheel travel + can run huge tires with out worrying about CV axles break or maintain , or even lockers, ring / pinion , drive shaft/u joint/ T-case, 40mm 35+ spline axles and all that other very expensive BS to have fun.

this is the one and only hub motor truck set for production





In the last video you can see it's just a standard frame with IFS front (hub motors) and leaf spring rear with a dummy solid axle (to hold the hub motors). As far as which EV truck you can mod and make it "capable" , this one is it. The cyber truck, Rivian, and F150 lighting all will have IRS swing arm type set up plus they will all use 4 CV axles (at each wheel) so this makes going long travel or adding "mods" harder. Not to mention the cyber will be a SS unibody , so good luck with shock hoops and such. Bottom line : cyber truck, Rivian, and F150 lighting all will pull ~ 9" of travel all round, and modifying it to get more will be very expensive. on the other hand , that lordstown EV just has a good ol leaf spring rear , with NO drive shaft to worry about and A arm front with NO CV to worry about. In theory it would be much like any pick-up (like our tacos) where you can just add 62" leaf springs or even a link setup (no worry about pinion angles !) for $2-5k and be in long travel territory. Up front, it would be like going long travel extended A-arm , on a any 2wd pick-up because the extended axles/CV are irrelevant so that can be long travel for similar price to a Tacoma (yet cheaper and more travel due to no axle/CV issues).

 

I deal with hybrids at work that get batteries wet. It’s an expensive mess when it happens. 4500 for a highlander to be exact. Granted they’re not “sealed” but instead in the cabin.

 

Personally due to charge times I don’t see an EV being useable for me until batteries are quick changeable. But that’s just me. 90% of the people that this things targeted for it will work perfect.

 

Rivian did submit a patent for a bed mounted pack but haven't heard anything more on it

 

Rivian claims 140 miles in 20 minutes from a DC fast charger.

 

Still not a couple minutes at a pump for 350 miles. Decent. But enough to make me dread driving it long distance

 

My days of running my rc trucks through puddles comes to mind.... lol would do it over a over , never ended well

 

I would give up on arguing with ppl about this. Just wait a few more months and real life will show them. It's like in 2010 when you were trying to convince your parents how useful a smart phone is, and all they could muster up was "but it's got no buttons, and my phone lasts 3 days with no charge"...hunnn?? no buttons? wtf that's your argument, buttons and charge? k...

I think they missed the part where these trucks are just as fast as a lambo, need 0.0001% the bull shit maintenance,

true, range anxiety is a thing.

but think about this. You just saved $150 bucks on gasoline for just that one trip. you won't need to change the oil when you get back. you don't need to clean the air filer. you don't need to swap plug or wires. you don't need to do any transmission or T-case fluid swaps (I'm assuming your trans won't break ever...fingers crossed). no need to swap lead starter battery ever few years. less need to waste cash on mods to make the truck work better (re gear, lockers, skid plates, gas tank skid plate). you also don't need to weld up catalytical convert theft prevention.

as far as new things you can do: you can accelerate in front of sports cars if they aren't letting you merge on the highway. you can keep the inside of the car cold or hot with out having the engine on building up fumes in the garage. if you ever need to drive upside down, or on the surface of the moon , this is possible with an EV :

 

It depends on your usage. For most people, plugging in over night will replenish them enough for the next day, even on level 1 charging. Not to mention you don't have to charge to 100% every day and can make up time when you aren't going anywhere.

 

this is akin to people still wanting to use oil lamps instead of electric light bulbs because they are worried about electrocution. Like yes, there are new issues with lightbulbs that you didn't have with a lamp....but the advantages they bring makes it worth it right?

 

I'm sure it can happen but your engine could flood or throw a rod as well. The likelihood isn't that great. And if it is, that's where lawsuits and warranties come in. Fact is these have to be ready to handle the elements which include rain, spray, puddles, etc. I'd almost venture to say you're safer driving an EV in deep water than your gas engine vehicle. Yeah, you could have issues if water broke the seal. But you will hydrolock your engine if you get in too deep. Either way, I suspect you'll have other issues to worry about before your EV battery breaking the seal in that case.

 

Up till now I've been on the fence about EV's. A friend has a Tesla 3 dual motor. I drove it and was impressed but still? I think my beemer from a roll would beat it but not off the line. Now that gas here in Cali is 4.50+/gal I'm thinking more about it. Now this thing! Holy shit I'm interested. Good thing I've been saving and will have to save more. I configured one to the tune of $74K. In todays terms that's actually not too bad. Hell the F150 Hybrid I'm interested in starts at $64K! Or the $70k Jeep WTF

 

Yeah the duel motor model 3 is super fun. I think maybe from 30-90 mph the bmw 2.0 (330i even) might keep up . From a dead stop the duel motor is nuts. For 2k you can Download “acceleration boost” and be in the 3 sec 0-60 times like the performance model 3.

On big difference between the model 3 and the bmw (3 series) I noticed is the breaking . EVs def have a lot more mass which u can feel in breaking or wanting to fling it around. True the center of gravity is lower and it’s got awd (it bites corners for sure) but breaking is not BMW level and sharp turns u “feel” the mass more. Still would go Tesla over the bmw tho ….
oh speaking of breaks. Just did all 4 pads on 2020 330i , and parts alone are about $400 bucks (dealer would charge 2k or so). Tesla needs less break swaps cuz regenerative breaking is used some of the time

 

Tesla said their cars should never need the brake pads replaced. But I saw some that replaced theirs at 150k miles. So I guess it's how they use the regen.

 

On my test drive there was about 3/4 mile between lights on PCH. I stepped on it got it to 100mph and let off the gas, it started to regen hard after a couple seconds so I only had to just touch the brakes at the very end to come to a complete stop at the next light. That's only because there were some other cars I was coming up on hard but the thing just slowed hard by itself. Amazing! BTW dont think a stock 330i would stand a chance even from a roll. The tesla got to 100mph pretty quick. Way less than a quarter mi Didn't get to test the braking or handling much. Just had a lot of fun one footing it

 

When you "saturate the market" , build charging stations everywhere, and 50% or more of the vehicles are electric:

How is the electricity going to be made? Solar, wind, nuclear?

Btw, the electric vehicles aren't maintenance free, like someone above suggested. Instead of mechanics alone, you will need IT, electricians and mechanics. Each blaming the other for why the ev is not driving.