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Rock slider soon. What are your recommendations?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by BamaToy1997, Jan 20, 2014.

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Which would you recommend?

Poll closed Feb 19, 2014.
  1. All Pro

    12 vote(s)
    10.6%
  2. BAMF

    46 vote(s)
    40.7%
  3. cbi

    7 vote(s)
    6.2%
  4. Elite

    4 vote(s)
    3.5%
  5. Relentless Fab

    6 vote(s)
    5.3%
  6. Other (PLEASE SPECIFY)

    38 vote(s)
    33.6%
  1. Jan 21, 2014 at 8:30 AM
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    BamaToy1997

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    See the bolded part below. That is the best explanation on what I have heard. Never experienced it, but then again, I never had square tubing. I admit your design of turning them up on end I like.

    I intend to get mine with some kind of kickout for the rear. I will need access to my bedrack and such. Once I decide which ones I will get, then I will talk customization with the builder for sure.
     
  2. Jan 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM
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    Yeah I've never been a fan of full square tube sliders that's why i like a hybrid design it's the best of both worlds being stronger and having the round tube on the outer rail for sliding across rocks.
     
  3. Jan 21, 2014 at 9:13 AM
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    OK. Well then I will amend my requirements to allow hybrid designs, as long as the outside tube set is round.
     
  4. Jan 21, 2014 at 9:16 AM
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    Kings all-around w/ 700lb coils, Dakar leaf pack, TC uca's, DO single hoop bumper, BAMF bolt-on sliders w/ kickouts, Rigid 20" e-series spot/flood, aFe pro-dry, BFG KM2 255/85/16, silver TRD FJ wheels, WARN M8000-s, Access LE, Grillcraft, BAMF lightbar, BAMF rear dif skid, BAMF LCA skids, window tint, Wet Okoles, WeatherTech floorliners, Silverstar lights, led dome lights, Redline Tuning hood struts, center console lock mod, mag-lite mod, extra d-rings, re-routed exhaust, ATO skids, ATO Hi-Lift mounts, pipe tailgate lock, seatbelt alarm delete, wheel/spare locks, Viper 5901, LoJack... WISHLIST: a golden canary that poops platinum
    My BAMFs have taken the full weight of my truck numerous times, and I'd say my truck is heavier than most. Full ATO skids, BAMF lca's (which have saved them), BAMF rear diff skid (which has easily saved it), front steel DeMello bumper with winch, full sized spare KM2, with two boxes of survival and recovery gear, and my fat ass with a passenger. I slammed into one rock so hard I would've bet money they were severely damaged, but, alas, just scratches. (I'm an expo rig, btw.) The kick-ups and outs were what switched me from the DeMellos. Those things looked liked sleds and, even with the same round tubing, I felt strongly they were going to hang me up since they were sticking straight out, which I why I got the newer sliders. Personal experience tells me my BAMFs are solid. :)
     
  5. Jan 21, 2014 at 9:16 AM
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    Yeah I highly recommend it.
     
  6. Jan 21, 2014 at 9:26 AM
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    Is this a joke?


    Anyways back to the OP question. I've seen several local guys with 4xinovations thrash on them. I'm up in the air between those and BAMF when it comes time to replace my current set.
     
  7. Jan 21, 2014 at 9:27 AM
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    For an all round-tube slider and bang for the buck cost, I've been extremely happy with my Trail Gear sliders. I've dropped the full weight of the truck on to them, skidded them over rocks more times than I can count now. Bounced one off a tree. Just used them the way sliders are meant to be used.


    I'm not going to comment on products from other places here, but just give my firsthand experience with the ones I have. I have two sets of TG sliders. One set on my Tacoma and another set on my HEAVY Land Cruiser. Both sets have been abused and with a fresh coat of paint still look like new. No dents or bends.


    Everyone has their own reasons for choosing one product over another. For simple function and great cost, I have zero complaints about the TG sliders and would stack them up against any other slider on the market. Just my two cents.
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  8. Jan 21, 2014 at 11:33 AM
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    Seems like the top votes are for BAMF and 4X innovations. Still doing some research. Thanks for all the input. I'm welcome to hear more!
     
  9. Jan 21, 2014 at 12:33 PM
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    I have the CBI bolt on DOMs and have been really happy with them, held up to much abuse and just keep on asking. I've also welded a set of 4x inno DOM sliders on another members truck a few months back and was very impressed with the 4x sliders. If I knew what I know now I would have bought 4x from the getgo, they are by far the cheapest DOM sliders on the market. Where the cheaper price comes into play is that you have to weld the tube legs and gussets on yourself, but I actually found that to be beneficial although more work. This allows you to set the length of the slider legs and the angle at what the slider sits at.

    How about BradyT88 he can't even open up his door with his BAMF sliders bolted on :laughing:
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    And I've also seen more than one set of BAMF sliders bent from shipping, and another member who's BAMF slider was rattling so hard against the pinch weld he could barely stand to drive the truck with them bolted on.

    To claim this is the shipping companies fault is just rediculous. It's poor packaging, my sliders came enclosed in their own pallet. If the shipper that BAMF uses is really that bad, it should be on HIM to find a better shipping company to deliver a quality product EVERY time.
     
  10. Jan 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM
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    I don't know much about other designs, but I am really happy with my bolt-on CBI sliders. I bought them second hand, but I believe they are .120 wall HREW... At any rate, I've beaten on them hard and they haven't bent, shifted or dented at all.
     
  11. Jan 21, 2014 at 1:16 PM
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    The kick out has been modified to clear DCSB rear door under a load so maybe you should know what your talking about before you type. And all bolt on sliders are strapped to a pallet shipping damages happen there is no way around it other then crating them and no one wants to pay for that.
     
  12. Jan 21, 2014 at 1:22 PM
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    Sucks for Brady, and you're not quite telling the truth here, are you? Let him give his own review since you have no personal experience with these. What he truly stated was he didn't mind how close it was because he COULD still open the door. So you should add on to what you wrote to state that the photo you posted had all the truck's weight on that part of the slider ("worst case scenario" he wrote). I did one of those "hey, look, my tire is on a rock, check that flex!" photos, and my whole truck torqued. Could barely open the doors, definitely couldn't close them, and that was the truck frame. I didn't go around claiming every Tacoma is a pos because of it, though. Just appears you're starting to chase BAMF and have a personal beef with him. Again, my own personal experience is top-notch with these sliders! :)
     
  13. Jan 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM
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    This "spirited debate" brings up a good point about sliders that is worth noting for those that are looking at sliders. It doesn't matter the brand, if the slider you buy has a kickout, you MUST be very careful about the angle of the slider, and how tight to the body they are mounted. If you angle the sliders too steep or they are welded close to the body, even if the front doors open just fine, the back doors aren't going to have the same amount of clearance because of the kickout.

    I've had to help a couple different people cut and reweld sliders because of that very issue.

    Just to be clear, I'm not knocking any particular vendor or the design of sliders with kickouts. I actually think that kickouts are a great feature to keep the bed of the truck out of the rocks. It's just a feature that you have to work around when mounting them.


    That being said, I don't have kickouts on my sliders. Much easier. :)
     
  14. Jan 21, 2014 at 2:36 PM
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    Disregard my comments above if you have a regular cab or an extra cab without back doors. This only applies to double cabs or 2nd gen extra cabs where the rear doors open
     
  15. Jan 21, 2014 at 2:47 PM
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    Jerry I don't personally own any of your products but all I've ever heard and read are nothing but great things :) . But I guess no matter what people will always hate !
     
  16. Jan 21, 2014 at 5:21 PM
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    /\/\/\ How does your foot taste? :rolleyes:

    So they have been "modified", how many others haven't fit right that have been "modified"? You sound like my son making up excuses for your wrongdoings. Why don't you just admit you screwed up a couple pair of sliders, everybody makes mistakes. You say over 500 without a return, and I stand by my other statement that based on this small sample population of those that were found with issues, there are probably several people who's sliders didn't fit right that were willing to accept a flaw and just deal with it, rather than be troubled with returning them.

    I'd be more apt to buy a product if a vendor was willing to admit the initial product may not have been designed optimally or maybe the QA inspector had a few too many cold ones on the job and let some subpar ones pass on by, if you even have a QA program.

    I told the truth as he posted it in his build, what more is there to tell? Just because he didn't mind not being able to open his door doesn't meaan others wouldn't as well. If I had bought a double cab, I'd prefer the use of all 4 of my doors ;)

    I think you failed to see that I have seen/helped install several sets of his sliders so I DO have personal experience with them, although they weren't my sliders.

    If those sliders deflected that much with "all the weight" of the truck on them (which we all know isn't really all the weight in a static situation), imagine how much they would deflect with a dynamic load applied onto them.

    And I'm sorry about your truck frame being bent or whatever you were getting at in that last part; I have not had that problem.

    I am not chasing BAMF specifically, I posted my experience with their product. There are plenty of other brands I wouldn't buy as well (allpro, avid to name a few)

    The weld on sliders make it easier to set it exactly where you want it which can help to avoid this issue for sure. When I did a set of weld ons for a buddy we held them up with jackstands and a string, set the angle and tacked them in while paying specific attention to the clearance between the pinch weld/doors. The kickout/up design is one that you have to be careful with. Not enough angle on the sliders and you don't gain optimal clearance and if the angle is too much you run into clearance issues. The kickout/no kickout debate is a whole nother bag of worms :D
     
  17. Jan 21, 2014 at 5:41 PM
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    I really don't want to jump on the bandwagon here or even say anything negative, but with the OP asking up our opinion, here's mine $0.02 again.

    The only thing I ordered from BAMF was a BPV bracket. It came with the holes not properly cut so I had to redrill them myself. Now drilling through typical steel wouldn't have been too bad but redrilling out these holes to align them properly was torture on my bits. The metal must have been strengthened from heating or something. Anyhow, for such a simple piece of hardware it should have come with the holes drilled straight on. In BAMF's defense I never notified them of the issue since it was something that I could correct myself; hopefully mine was just a fluke.

    As for Elite, the quality was superb. My rear bumper and sliders were perfect. The front bumper arrived incorrectly built. As soon as I told Tim of the issue he immediately shipped out the extra parts (light hoop and half guard) and he offered a discount since I would be having to pay to get it welded up. Really top notch customer service. The only other issue with Elite is the wait time. The current front bumper group buy still has people waiting for stuff they paid for 8+ months ago.
     
  18. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:09 PM
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    OK, let's make a few things clear here. (Since this is my thread, I can bitch all I want! Haha)

    I am asking about advice and personal experiences about SLIDERS. Not light mounts, or this part, or that part. SLIDERS is all I care about.

    Also, while I did ask for opinions, I don't want this thread to get locked because people had or have issues with a person. As I said, I don't give a rat's ASS if someone has a beef with the way something was shipped. What I care about is will the slider do the job? Fortunately since I have a 1st gen extended cab, the kickouts won't matter for a rear door opening, so that part can be dropped please. Let us stick to the matter at hand, and that is the sliders themselves, and if they can handle the bashing I will most likely be putting them through. Aside from the other bits of information, it still sounds like overall 4X innovations and BAMF sliders seem to have the most votes for what I am needing. Can we please try to get back on track here. Thanks.
     
  19. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:13 PM
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    I'm not trying to dissuade you from sliders but how long have you gone without sliders and do you really need them? I went over a year with excessive wheeling with my truck without sliders and everything was fine and no rocker damage. Now that I have since put BAMF sliders on my truck I have the option to drive over more difficult things and challenge my truck more since I know I have the protection. If it's a first gen and you've been wheeling for X amount of years without them, then why put them on now?
     
  20. Jan 21, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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    As mentioned in my post, I am building my truck for more heavy trails, and a expedition in the future. So yes, I really need them. I have done many changes to my truck and I would rather get the sliders on BEFORE I cause body damage, not AFTER I cause it and wish that I had gotten them.
     
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