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Rolling back while stopped on a hill

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by junkyarddogg, Aug 30, 2023.

  1. Aug 30, 2023 at 10:15 AM
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    Marshall R

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    Left foot on brake, right foot on accelerator pedal. As you press the right foot down ease up on the left.

    On most small inclines the truck doesn't roll back even if you keep your foot off the brake pedal. But on steep inclines, especially if loaded heavy or with a trailer it will. Some newer trucks have hill start technology with both manuals and automatics. I can see where it could be of assistance to a novice driver in a manual. But it ain't rocket science to just keep your foot on the brakes until you're ready to go forward.
     
  2. Aug 30, 2023 at 4:25 PM
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  3. Aug 30, 2023 at 4:26 PM
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  4. Aug 30, 2023 at 4:28 PM
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    Lol, i've read about this in the past and it said the same thing...wait a little longer. Unfortunately, the steep hills i'm on will cause me to crash into the person behind me if I wait much longer much than a second.
     
  5. Aug 30, 2023 at 4:46 PM
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    I think you are misunderstanding what this hill assist is for on the Off Road and Pro. It is not a replacement to lock you in place on a hill where you stop.
    It is made, in off road situations, to catch you from rolling too far backward if you don't hit your brake or gas. Not a lazy man assist. On pavement, hold your brake and then give it the gas. Zero roll back. If you don't press either, you are gonna roll some and listen to ABS chatter and then stop. Again, for off reading.
     
  6. Aug 30, 2023 at 5:00 PM
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    gudujarlson

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    I think you might have a misunderstanding of the purpose of the hill-assist on the AT OR. It’s not meant to hold you in place on a hill. That is the brake’s purpose. The hill-assist is there to save your life (or your taillights) if you screw up.
     
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  7. Aug 30, 2023 at 5:11 PM
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    One other note… if rolling back even an inch is a problem, you can use the parking brake technique. Applying the parking brake, push the parking brake release button, release the foot brake, apply light throttle, and release the parking brake.

    CAVEAT: I’ve never needed to use this technique with an automatic transmission, but it should work the same.
     
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  8. Aug 30, 2023 at 6:16 PM
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    Lol it does. I was literally an inch from a stuck tractor on a hill. I had spun back there. Unhooked the strap with the e brake on, put in in D, gave it the gas and slowly let the e brake off. No drama.
     
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  9. Aug 30, 2023 at 6:27 PM
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    Only thing left to do is move to Kansas flatlands
     
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    Thank you for answering the question for someone who might be new to driving/or the vehicle. The "hill assist" on these trucks is less than useful. People coming from other A/T vehicles might be used to their vehicle holding in place when they take their foot off the brake to accelerate. The tacoma does not do that. On a steep enough start, you have to know to put your left foot on the brake and release it while you push down the gas pedal. This is not intuitive at all for people being sold a truck that has a "hill assist" if they come from a vehicle that actually has hill assist or hill hold on the auto transmission
     
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  11. Aug 30, 2023 at 6:44 PM
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    No offense intended, but I suspect you have not read the best parts of this thread.
     
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    I did read it. OP didn't even reply until page two, and that was just answering questions. As far as comedic shit-comments go, this one didn't even try to answer the question to a legitimate concern. A concern that I myself had when I bought my 2016, because the hill assist was trash 7 years ago when every other car manufacturer had it figured out back then.
     
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  13. Aug 30, 2023 at 7:26 PM
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    If you buy the Off Road version, I expect you to know what it is and does. Otherwise, you are just clueless. They are very specific in the owner's manual. But, oh wait! Nobody reads that anymore. I want to write more but I will get a vacation if I do.
     
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    99.9% of people who buy a vehicle just buy the one that fits their price range and MPG needs. If people actually bought vehicles to perform offroad, we'd all be driving jeeps with solid front axles and manual transmissions instead of Toyota tacomas that half-ass hill control and have multi terrain select and crawl control.

    I've been a lot more places in a 1995 jeep Cherokee with an AX-15, NP231 and 4.0 than I'd take my 2020 Tacoma with all its fancy gadgetry.

    People demand useless features they'll never use because the marketing tells them they need it to drive down a fire road. So that's the vehicles we get.

    You guys are welcome to burn me at the stake, but a Ridgeline is more than enough pickup for almost everybody who occasionally needs a truck bed. And it rides a helluva lot better on the road than a tacoma too lol
     
  15. Aug 30, 2023 at 8:19 PM
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    it lets you roll back a little bit and then catches you. But I hate that feature when off roading (mine’s a OR AT)- I wish I could turn it off. There are a lot of times when I want to roll back a bit to get a better run over a step or soft part on a hill and I have to put it in N or R because the lock won’t let me back up when in D.

    My first Gen Taco would let me leave it in D to back up slightly just by lightening up on the gas when I needed to get a running start. Having to put it in neutral or reverse is not safe to do on a steep hill as all that’s holding you on the steep hill then are your brakes.
     
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    OP, the noise is normal, the feature, whether requested by the masses or not is something new to me after owning my first four-wheel drive in 1980. I am used to all the other vehicles that I have driven in the past, holding position while going from the brake to the accelerator on an automatic transmission. That lag from brake pedal to gas on the OR feels like a manual the first time I experienced it. Others have already mentioned it, but whether it's the handbrake, situation specific, or using both feet, one on the brake and one on the gas, both work. I have 81000 on this truck and hundreds of off-road miles and it is a very capable 4x4. That's based on owning a 2dr rubicon, 71 bronco and numerous toyota and half ton trucks. I too downplayed the crawl control until I needed it. Totally forgot about having it to be quite honest. Like other experienced off roaders, I have had to admit I was wrong. The crawl control can be pretty useful.
     
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    x2 same. Seems if I hold the brake for second or so it engages. :notsure:
     
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    does it only apply to trucks with crawl control? Or certain year OR's?
     
  19. Aug 30, 2023 at 8:35 PM
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    @junkyarddogg I know exactly what you are experiencing. I have a very steep driveway at home. My 2018 Tacoma used to do that often. It's like traction control kicks in, it cuts power, and can't even move forward for a second. I've worked on a bunch of Tacomas at my home, and have experienced it in other people's 3rd gens as well.
     
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