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RSI Smart Cap

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by microsnook, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. Mar 27, 2021 at 7:01 AM
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    Brewmedic

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    If you look back on page 39 i believe, there are several different ways the wires have been routed w/ pictures.
     
  2. Mar 27, 2021 at 7:58 AM
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    Has anyone slept in the 6 foot bed smartcap yet? Any user reviews on how well this works for truck camping in the bed?
     
  3. Mar 27, 2021 at 10:51 AM
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    Need to keep an opening cracked open, unless you install a push/pull fan to keep the condensation from building. You will ALWAYS battle condensation if there is no airflow or vent
     
  4. Mar 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM
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    Best fix for the brake light wiring issue other than complaining to the vendor for a fix.... go to pick-n-pull and swipe (purchase) two Toyota pins (male/female). Any Toyota... solder a piece of wire to extend them and install the jumper.... boom! Issue fixed! Cap brake light works and the dual filament light bike on the yota works properly.

    * pro tip: to take the plug caps off, use a hook tool or similar.... hook the white cap inside the plug and pull.... the white cover on the male pins can be removed with pliers. To “de-pin” get a tiny and long flat head to gently pull up on the latch holding the pins in.... YouTube it...

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  5. Mar 27, 2021 at 11:23 AM
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    I'm considering getting this for my OR AC that's coming in this week. One of the main things I want is to be able to put my Roofnest on it so I have some questions about crossbars
    1. What systems are compatible? I've seen the stock RSI load bars, Front Runner (looks like KRCA007 as bar set or FASS012 mounting feet), and Rhino-Rack RLT600 feet. Are there others, e.g. from Thule or Yakima that would work?
    2. What is the maximum width of the bars (without hitting the flip-up windows)? I had my tent on 58" bars on my Subaru so the 45" bars sound small. My tent even calls for at least 48" bars
    3. What is the length of the side windows? With a long bed I might be able to space the bars to the front/back of them.
     
  6. Mar 27, 2021 at 12:29 PM
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    The rails take m8 square weld nuts according to another forum. I haven't got mine in yet to test. I'm in the process of making my own rack so I'll know probably within a month if that works.

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  7. Mar 27, 2021 at 2:02 PM
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    Just had our first spring thunderstorm. The rain never got terribly heavy, but I would say moderate rainfall. Anyways, it looks like there are two areas of ingress on my cap - the first is in the front corners where I put no effort into closing up the gaps, the second is through a bolt in the roof panel. If I am looking at this correctly, this bolt comes through the roof rack rail, then down through the top to be a stud for the side panels before the washer and nyloc nut are used. Has anyone else seen any leaks coming from here?.

     
  8. Mar 27, 2021 at 4:58 PM
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    What does everyone else’s bed rails look like after tightening down the clamp bolts?

    I put the rubber spacers between the bed rail and the cap in each clamp location and only torqued to 70 in lbs for now (calls for 108 in lbs).

    My cap rails are visibly bowing on the first two clamps closes to cab. This appears to be because of the curve of the bed. The front most clamp bolt is farthest to the right of it’s hole and thus pulling down more of the metal and the middle clamp bolt is doing something similar. The rear most clamp bolt is farthest to the left of it’s hole and doesn’t appear to be bowing the metal at all.

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  9. Mar 27, 2021 at 5:13 PM
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    Same, but I forgot the rubber pads and I used German torque values ....gudentite
     
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  10. Mar 27, 2021 at 6:18 PM
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    Thanks Aodrn - My OCD is going to kill me on this one though. That metal sure is bending.
     
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  11. Mar 27, 2021 at 7:33 PM
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    I got the replacement tail light harness today, and this weekend the cap seen some snow. dog loved the doggie windows. I didnt see any leaks, only a spilled dog water bowl

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  12. Mar 27, 2021 at 10:00 PM
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    Man, I can’t imagine 6 ft lbs of torque doing that. Are you sure your using an inch lbs torque wrench and not ft lbs wrench because 70 foot lbs would do that for sure but not 70 inch lbs.
     
  13. Mar 27, 2021 at 11:02 PM
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    So I was able to switch the pins/wires in the harness to get it to work. Takes about 5 minutes and is way faster than waiting for a new harness.
     
  14. Mar 27, 2021 at 11:04 PM
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    Also, no need to drill a hole to get your wiring through.

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  15. Mar 28, 2021 at 5:29 AM
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    Mines doing the same and it was torqued to spec and has the rubber block underneath. I backed it off and triple checked it.
     
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    70 ft-lbs is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than that. I'm pretty sure the bolt would be long gone before you reach it, and the bolt probably would not be the first thing to go.

    Mine looks the same. I actually bought another torque wrench not totally trusting my harbor freight one.

    For some quick math, 6 ft-lbs of torque on an M10 bolt is around 915 lbs of clamping force, 9 ft-lbs of torque is about 1,375 lbs of force. I kind of suspect 6 ft-lbs is sufficient, unless you have a bunch of weight on top of the cap AND do some steep roll off-roading.

    What do other caps require to be secured? Are there any torque guidelines on the bed rails in general?
     
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  17. Mar 28, 2021 at 6:31 AM
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    70 ft lbs would rip the clamp rail off the side of the bed goober.

    Kingair and Aodrn put my mind to rest for now but I’ll be watching the welds on those gussets above the pulled down metal.
     
  18. Mar 28, 2021 at 9:27 AM
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    Well, looks like I stand corrected.
    I was able to get four of the six torqued to 9ft lbs, the others I snugged down.
    Maybe my torque wrench is reading wrong.
     
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  19. Mar 28, 2021 at 8:59 PM
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    I used 9ft lbs on all 6. Heard some cracks/snaps and the cap rail definitely deflects down to the bed rail a bit, but overall not that bad - not nearly what trd4x4boy has in the middle. I was really nervous about 9ft lbs and watched closely...If i did it again - probably wouldn't go to 9, probably 6 like has been mentioned.

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  20. Mar 29, 2021 at 8:56 AM
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    So here’s what has happened so far:

    - I received a new harness with three pins due to the LED tail lights.

    - When I installed it, the 3rd brake light didn’t work. I had to change the wires that I “fixed” earlier which had them backwards. It would appear that either RSI made the switch in the new harness to correct for the earlier error or LED tail lights have a different pin out with respect to polarity.

    I don’t have much confidence that I will be receiving a new harness with the wires corrected so I just used shrink tubing and soldered everything together nicely now.

    Hope that helps.
     
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