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Rugged Terrain tires

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by sgmstr, Mar 14, 2020.

  1. Mar 15, 2020 at 4:53 AM
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    mello03

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    I don’t think I’d trust that “tire guy” if he said that.
     
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  2. Mar 15, 2020 at 5:27 AM
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    @sgmstr --
    I've been doing similar research for a while now. What I've found is that while many AT tires are staying true to their original function, the market is being flooded with other AT models that aren't any more capable than the stock Goodyear's.
    The RT segment is new and does serve a purpose; it's not just marketing BS. The Kenda Klever RT and Federal Xplora RT are two examples of solid offerings, but with limited sizes. The Nexen Roadian MTX is available in 265-75-16 and is a really nice, quality option. Maxxis is also worth looking into.

    Despite all this, I ultimately decided on a "lighter" weight, quality, and affordable MT -- Yokohama Geolandar MT G003. Yokohama does have an X-AT tire though as well.

    Hope this helps :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Mar 15, 2020 at 5:50 AM
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    i searched, and didnt see directional in the specs. do you have some info, you care to share? Ski
     
  4. Mar 15, 2020 at 7:30 AM
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    For what it’s worth to you, I had the open country RT on my last Tacoma. And just purchased them again for my new one. Absolutely loved everything about them. Not sluggish at all. I had them in a 33x12.5-20 on a 3 in lift. Gas mileage hurts a bit but worth it IMO. It’s a harder tire than the Nitto and will probably last a bit longer. But at the end of the day tire choice comes down to appearance preference and what you will be using them for. Street use with minimal off road use was why I went with them.
     
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  5. Mar 15, 2020 at 8:00 AM
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    I'll throw in my $0.02.

    Here is a site that will give you all the info you need on tire size, weight, rotations per mile etc... Now, my experience with different tires.
    The Nitto Ridge Grapplers are soft and wear fast. They have a cool factor but do work okay for an in between mt/at tire. Just dont expect high miles out of them.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, so many people love the KO2 for a reason. It's a good aggressive all terrain that has a million sizes available, multiple load ranges (which affects how soft a compound is used in the tire) and when using a D or E, guys seem to get a lot of miles out of them. My boss is at 55k on his and they are only at about 50% tread.

    People are not gonna like this statement but... The STT Pro is the most overrated, useless tire I have ever run. Loaded up with mud and never cleaned, would throw gravel loose at high speeds once you got back on the highway. It did wear like iron though, I'll give it that. Just way overrated in my experience.
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    If you want a tire that will go anywhere and I do mean anywhere without any hesitation... Federal Couragia MT. Just don't expect them to last more than 2 years lol.
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    Currently I'm on my second set Mastercraft Courser MT's. I really like this tire and find its a good compromise. Good braking and highway feel even when wet. And when you hit the trails they have enough bite to get you where you want to go without having to air all the way down. Just drop them to around 25-28 psi and have fun!

    I know it's not the RT your thinking about but ask yourself this. If and when your out on the weekend, do you really want to be stopped and have to turn around because you don't have enough tire to do the trail? Or do you want to have the confidence in your rig to know you can keep going on your adventure?

    My current tire... btw I went from stock size to this '33 inch' and only lost .45mpg.
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  6. Mar 15, 2020 at 8:09 AM
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    Also running these tires and agree with everything you've said about them. Super quiet for an MT tire. If they last me 2 years I'll be very happy, at that price.
     
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  7. Mar 15, 2020 at 8:11 AM
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    Yeah, I really feel that for the price (They are cheap! $840 for my set installed.) That they are to often overlooked.
     
  8. Mar 15, 2020 at 9:21 AM
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    I have never seen an AT directional tire. Common on high performance tires, but that’s usually limited to summer tires. You can tell by the tread pattern that they’re not. Also, on the sidewall there’ll be an arrow if they are directional. I could be wrong, but I’d be willing to say that guy is clueless.
     
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    265/75/16 Duratracs for the win.....

    45 lbs C load, vs 51 lbs E load.
     
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    It can't be directional. AT3s have different look on each side of sidewall - one being "aggressive" look and another less.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge, @savethewheels
     
  12. Mar 15, 2020 at 10:47 AM
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    Thanks @Bizz. yes I understand I'll take the hit on MPG. Good to know that it's not sluggish.
     
  13. Mar 15, 2020 at 11:06 AM
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    This is precisely the reason I want to get tires with better traction than ATs... I researched on RTs and MTs and i seem to leaning toward RTs for the following:

    1. Most RTs are lighter than MTs and have better "eco" treadpatterns hence less worse MPG than MTs. (I don't really mind a hit on MPG but if RTs gives you similar traction of MTs... so why not RTs)
    2. RTs offer similar traction of MTs
    3. Less expensive than MTs (most of the time on brand name tires)
    4. Some RTs even do have warranties.

    BUT (and which goes back to my original question and folks seems to think that I'm asking about what is a better tire in general)....

    MTs/RTs being heavier than ATs (C loads) the question of whether it has impact on acceleration. Turd gens are already sluggish (ETCs just makes you feel faster) and I don't want to lose any more.

    @Bizz confirms that RTs don't make the truck sluggish.

    Is there anyone running RTs (or even MTs) to share their experience on how acceleration is impacted by going to heavier tires (55+ lbs)? Not concerned about MPG ATM (I understand I gotta pay to play)
     
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  14. Mar 15, 2020 at 11:13 AM
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    My MTs are 295/70/17 (true 33s by 11.5") and are only 58 pounds. $730 shipped from Amazon.

    These are my first MTs so they were/are a trial run for me. Super quiet on the road and awesome grip offroad

    Edit. Obviously Acceleration is set back by a heavier tire but I have noticed highway driving is much more comfortable. I believe RPMs lower to account for the larger circumference, meaning less RPMs for same speed on smaller tires. Which means gears get held a little longer (maybe I'm just imagining it all) and the larger circumference and added weight also lets the truck roll more smoothly on highways.
     
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    Seems like it's subjective on acceleration. There was another guy here that said it felt the same. :facepalm:
     
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  16. Mar 15, 2020 at 1:12 PM
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    Yeah if you don't speed off the line while driving stock you won't notice any difference at all with bigger tires.
     
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    Been looking at these a lot lately. What size are you running I'd love to see a few more pics of your truck with these tires.
     
  18. Mar 15, 2020 at 2:34 PM
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    265/70/17 they are c load. A little taller than some 265/70 IMG_20200315_112244750_HDR.jpg
     
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    Looks killer!!!
     
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    I think going RT is ok but I would recommend keeping it a 2ply for weight and comfort. Once you go to 3ply the tire can be more harsh because it is stiff. The biggest difference for me is that RT’s are significantly louder that AT’s. Not as loud as a MT but not that far off. Just my 2cents.
     

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