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Run to the Hills! - Jason's Glacial Pace Colorado GTFO Build

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by jubei, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Sep 22, 2018 at 7:18 PM
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    jubei

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    Here's the list of (real) mods in order of importance top to bottom in my book. Most people would agree with me, maybe change the order of a few things, but none the less. The important thing is that you get the truck you want, ultimately it's your vison, money, pride and joy! The whole point of this addiction is building kick ass trucks! I hope this helps.

    rear locker
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    and the last step is to just build a buggy
     
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  3. Sep 23, 2018 at 2:17 AM
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    I get why people like lockers and how well they help. But do you guys ever try to do a difficult obstacle without just setting the locker and try to improve your skills as a driver. Or do you just set it and not worry about it.

    I’m open front and back so everytime I come up to something difficult my spider senses kick in and figure out the best way to approach and cross the obstacle. Improving my driving stills. I get you don’t want to keep the group waiting or force the truck to a breaking point. But do you guys with lockers at least attempt it without automatically locking?
     
  4. Sep 23, 2018 at 10:18 AM
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    Trails I do you need lockers to make it past the first obstacle/gatekeeper lol. No getting around it with out them or most obstacles. Detroit front and e locker rear so theres a lot a times I leave the rear unlocked unless it's something I think or know I need it. I also put it in 2wd low when 4 low isn't need to keep the stress off the steering and front end components. If I think I need the locker I turn it on to prevent from breaking something from to much throttle or sliding or tearing up the trail to much and digging unnecessary deep holes.

    Lockers are game changers. Driving skill can only do so much. Theres a point where you have to bash on the truck pretty hard to make things without them.
     
  5. Sep 23, 2018 at 1:53 PM
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    A lot of good points. :thumbsup:
     
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    No because I have auto lockers and I don't like to rip the trail up. I do frequently forget to engage the front axle though since I'm usually in 2wd when it's real twisty or between obsticles. Always nice getting yelled at that something in my front end broke because they aren't turning, helps if I pull the lever LOL!! Wheeled an open/open yj on 33s with 3.07 gears for 5years, I got the T-shirt, now I will always have lockers!!
     
  7. Sep 23, 2018 at 4:10 PM
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    Well I've only had lockers for like 2? years if that. And for most of that time Frank has been down anyways and have been in Igor with no locker again..so..yeah.

    I pretty much look at any obstacle like I don't have one. Try it. See how it goes. Lock as needed.
     
  8. Sep 23, 2018 at 8:16 PM
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    That's not really how it works... It takes skill with lockers too, otherwise you end up over an embankment being held up by a tree. When I first got into wheeling, my 80 yota PU had no power steering and 31s open/open. Next I got a welded rear, then gears, ect. If you wheel your rig, you will NEVER run out of skills to hone lol. Lockers are not a magic wand that just makes everything go right (just ask my buddy who ended up in the tree). I have seen plenty of guys with all the cool toys and no skill get stumped on something that others did in stockish trucks. It's all about the skills.
     
  9. Sep 25, 2018 at 7:37 PM
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    You missed my point. It was never about "set it and not worry about it". It was about choosing to not engage the locker right away and trying the obstacle first to try and better your skill or challange yourself as a driver. It's all good though.
     
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    Good deal :thumbsup:
     
  11. Sep 26, 2018 at 9:15 AM
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    Im a firm believe that people should start offroading without lockers for a while. Then get them after doing some stuff without one. You'll learn to appreciate it more but also learn to pick lines better I think.

    Just my opinion though.
     
  12. Sep 26, 2018 at 9:36 AM
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    I concur :thumbsup:
     
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    Makes you appreciate them for sure. Haha. I've had a ball wheeling and learning along the way. However, (for me at least) line choice is completely different a lot of the time between open/open, open/locked, and locked/locked. Sometimes the best line is the one where open/open would never stand a chance. It's soooo nice knowing that lifting a tire or two isn't going to stop you.

    I only have two wheeling trips under my locked/locked belt, so it's still amazing to me every time I crawl over something I thought would give trouble. Where I notice the front locker really shining is getting up big ledges and such. Places where after the front tires get over the ledge there isn't much weight on them, and the back tires are trying to climb up.
     
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  14. Sep 26, 2018 at 9:45 AM
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    I agree.

    Knowing that lockers aren’t a cure-all for everything, I’ve made it a point to try obstacles open-open as much as possible. To be honest, I have yet to use my front locker at all, other than to verify that it’s functional.

    After seeing @Tacofire98 do some pretty amazing driving with a mildly modified truck, I was convinced that driver skill makes up for a lot, and that lockers and armor can easily become a crutch.
     
  15. Sep 26, 2018 at 6:19 PM
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    I think wheeling with a mild truck is a great way to build skills as a driver. Like mentioned it teaches the art of picking lines, and also shows the limits the truck has. I've gotten comfortable with knowing how my truck will react to wherever I put it. With that, I feel like I can build it up better to the areas that it lacks. I can confidently say I have put my truck in places it shouldn't have been and those have been teaching moments showing the limits. I do love my locker, and use it quite often as to not destroy the truck on the trail. A rear locker and a great driver will take anyone pretty far.
     
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    Pretty much could have saved ourselves the last two pages of hurp-de-durp with this one statement. :p:thumbsup:
     
  17. Sep 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM
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    :rofl:
     
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    Hahaha! I know right. But Damn I like it.
     
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