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Running 275/70R17 Tires w/ Bilstein 5100 @ 1.75" w/ Offset Wheels or Spacers

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by tencrawler, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. Mar 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM
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    tencrawler

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    Long Story Short: It Works!

    Current Front Suspension:

    Bilstein 5100 Shocks @ 1.75" w/ Stock TRD Coils
    Everything Else Stock

    Current Rear Suspension:

    Wheelers 1.5" 3 Leaf Progressive AAL
    Bilstein 5100 Shocks
    All Pro U Bolt Flip Kit

    Current Wheels & Tires:

    Pro Comp 17X8" 7089 w/ 4.5" Backspace
    275/70R17 Cooper Discoverer ST

    I had the slightest of rub on the front/rear at full lock in either direction. The tires were only making contact with plastic, and I took care of that tonight. I am very happy with the look and feel of the tires.

    What I Trimmed
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    Front Of Wheel Well
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    I'm sorry I didn't take before shots, but I do hope that this can help someone searching for the answer in the future.
     
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  2. Mar 11, 2013 at 9:14 PM
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    OZ-T

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    Holy crap , looks tight

    :thumbsup:
     
  3. Mar 11, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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    tencrawler

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    Without a doubt it's tight, but I took it out for a test drive after trimming, and I'm very happy with the results. I think I will take care of the CMC and possibly the pinch weld here in the near future, just to allow for a little more room if needed when flexing. I'm by no means a serious off road driver, but I do drive through irrigation ditches to check on the cows and cut a little jag of firewood here and there. I might drive down old skid trails to get to a good fishing hole or deer camp, but besides that she is my daily driver and sees a lot more pavement that dirt; if you don't count our driveway.
     
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  4. Mar 18, 2013 at 8:35 AM
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    Looks great Wes. Have you noticed any rubbing on the Cab Mount/Pinch Weld yet?
     
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  5. Mar 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM
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    teneighty

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    Nice! Looks good!

    I'm planning on running the BFG AT's in the same size. I'm going with a full 3" though but with same size wheel and offset.

    Good to know... Thanks
     
  6. Mar 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM
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    tencrawler

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    Thanks! You will have no problem with rubbing with that lift an this size tire. I will make the bump to 3" someday, but for now this suits my needs and fits our budget.

    Thank you! Not at all, in regards to the rubbing. Since trimming the plastic there has been no rubbing. I actually crawled underneath last night to check for any signs of rubbing. I have been tentative to the matter due to the fact that they are brand new tires and I want to avoid any premature wear or chunking. Everything looks good, but I will still be taking care of my cab mount and pinch weld in the near future; a little extra space during flex is always welcomed.
     
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  7. Oct 14, 2013 at 6:27 PM
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    Hey man, I know this is an old thread but I was wondering what happened to your MPG after putting these one?
     
  8. Oct 15, 2013 at 1:30 PM
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    I have a regular commute and I use the Torque app with a bluetooth OBDII adapter and I only notice a 0.2-0.5 mpg drop. The Cooper's are 6 Ply (C Load Range) and really weren't that much heavier than the Toyo ATs that I had on before hand, and it would appear the ~2" larger diameter tires didn't make much of a difference in mileage, but the truck looks great IMO and the added height and traction is always appreciated even in the most mild off-road situations.
     
  9. Oct 15, 2013 at 7:08 PM
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    Okay thanks man. I really want to go with this size but I was having a hard time finding a c rated tire. The st's are one of the few options but I heard somewhere that they weren't going to make them anymore once they introduce the st max in this size and those only come in e rated
     
  10. Oct 16, 2013 at 7:59 AM
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    You can still find them at Sears. It appeared that they have a fairly large stock of the last production run of the ST. If you go this route, they offer all of the bells and whistles that you would get at any other tire dealer, and I have found thier service better most of the time. Chances are they will have to order the tire from a regional warehouse, and then be sure to check the mfg/exp date of each tire.

    thttp://www.sears.com/cooper-discoverer-st-lt275-70r17c-114q-owl-off-road/p-09534905000P
     
  11. Feb 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM
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    Are you still liking these tires? Thinking of picking a set of these up. Just want to factor in everything. Mpg, noise, balance, on and off road performance, dry, wet, snow, ice, etc......
     
  12. May 14, 2014 at 10:51 PM
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    Can you take a picture from the front and rear to show how far your tire sticks out from fenders?
     
  13. May 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM
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    I still very happy with my choice. I just picked up Goodyear Wrangler MT/R off of Craigslist and FJ steel wheel for a full size/adequate backspacing spare. With that being said. When I need new tires, if I can find these size Cooper ST, I will most likely go with them again, and depending if the Tacoma is still my daily driver, I might go with a more aggressive tire like the MTR, until then the noise is negligible, MPG loss was less than 1 MPG, no added vibes or shimmys, handle great in all weather conditions (never been in sand).

    They are almost perfectly flush with the stock fender flares. Hope that helps.

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  14. May 21, 2014 at 4:44 PM
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    Interesting.. I was just looking into buying new tires, currently have 275/70/17s, exactly what you installed. I've had this taco for just over 2 years now (bought used) and wondered what was done to the front end to fit this size of tire... it's obviously not stock. You said Bilstein shocks get the job done, and as it turns out, my shocks are lt blue/yellow (Bilstein colors, right??) The tires in your original post are the exact tires I was eyeing, and figured I'd do a quick search on this forum.

    So, how do you like the Coopers? Recommend?
     
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  15. May 22, 2014 at 6:43 AM
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    The adjustable Bilsteins have a silver body. The Bilstein 5100 are most likely the most cost effective way to achieve this minimal lift, but another adjustable coil/strut combo could do the same.

    As far as the Coopers go, I still like them quite a bit. I have had them for a year, and they have held up very well. The noise is minimal and they look great on the truck. As mentioned above in an earlier reply, they have performed great in all conditions.

    Bilstein 5100 w/ stock coil
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  16. May 22, 2014 at 1:09 PM
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    I suppose you don't have tsb leaf pack right? did you left overload leaf in after installing the progressive AAL?
    so if rear lifted +1.5 and front +1.75, you reduced rake by about 0.25. looks pretty level.
    I plan to do the same.
     
  17. May 22, 2014 at 6:40 PM
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    Ok, you got me to finally crawl on my stomach and take a snapshot to figure this out. :thumbsup: The label at the bottom says 'Toyota Bilstein'... Must be these.
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    Thanks to the nasty salted northeast roads this truck has put up with all its life, everything is pretty damn crumby. (Dammit my car stays in the garage!)

    The rear-end is still OEM, so there's obviously tons of negative rake. But anyway, Bilsteins do seem like a good inexpensive option.
     
  18. May 23, 2014 at 6:20 AM
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    Those are the stock Bilsteins that come on the TRD models. What does the top of the coil over look like? is there any sort of spacer (i.e. hockey puck)?

    Check out wheelersoffroad.com
    1.5" AAL: http://wheelersoffroad.com/product-...assis/add-a-leaf-kits-suspension-and-chassis/
    5100 Shocks
    Front: http://wheelersoffroad.com/product/...-5100-height-adjustable-front-strut-set-c477/
    Rear: http://wheelersoffroad.com/product/...in-5100-rear-shock-set-for-05-current-tacoma/
     
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