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Rust Proofing

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ex4runner, Jun 5, 2016.

  1. Jun 5, 2016 at 7:52 PM
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    ex4runner

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    I just installed my Icon suspension this weekend and since I currently live in the snow belt, I was wondering if anyone has any ideas for prohibiting rust? Basically after I installed my lift on my 5th Gen 4Runner, the threads of the coil-over and the shocks itself rusted pretty good. Too the point that I could no longer adjust them. I had my 4Runner undercoated, but that crap is a dry coating that tends to flake off. Is there any type of grease or spray or home remedy that anyone has used to combat rust on components like the shocks? I am not looking to spray the entire truck right now, just some key parts.
     
  2. Jun 5, 2016 at 8:09 PM
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    angry john

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    Motorcycle chain lube is a wax coating. There are many types but the good ones dry. Look for waxes not lubes and you should do a lot better. I also use it on rifles for long term storage. My dad uses it on lathe ways.
     
  3. Jun 5, 2016 at 8:28 PM
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    splitbolt

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    Depending on what you're trying to do;
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    Not sure it would work but what about some 'grease' I'm thinking of what some people do for 'water proofing'
     
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    Can you use antiseize?
     
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    Mike G

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    Fluid Film , you can buy it at Lowe's. It takes about 4 cans to do the undercarriage.
     
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    For what it's worth I was speaking to my local body shop guy, and we talked about rust proofing. He said that he could certainly do the job, but regular undercarriage washing was probably a much better bet. He did mention to watch out for flaking paint and bare metal, but otherwise it should be good to go with just a regular hosing down.

    I've known the guy for a while and I trust him a lot- we've worked together on a number of my restoration projects. I also put a lot of stock in the fact that he could have told me to rust proof ASAP and walked away with one more healthy sized check from me, but he didn't.

    We're in southeast PA, so we do get plenty of road brine during the winter.
     
  8. Jun 5, 2016 at 9:46 PM
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    taczilla

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    I live in Ontario, Canada and frequently go to upstate NY where they use that devil piss calcium on the roads.

    I use Krown rust proofing on my truck in the fall. I coat the Icons (been on for two winters) and they look like new. The stuff wears off by spring, so you can do your mods without all the grease!

    https://www.krown.com/

    I also use Rust Check for touch ups during the winter too.

    http://www.rustcheck.com/
     
  9. Jun 6, 2016 at 4:07 AM
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    ex4runner

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    Excellent thanks. This Krown or Fluid Film treatment sound like what I am looking for.
     
  10. Jun 6, 2016 at 4:55 AM
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    +1 on the fluid film - I put on my truck a few weeks after new.... live is SE PA brine on the roads that doesn't wash off with normal undercarriage washing at a car wash. No rust so far. Replaced my crappy rear bumper bo rust anywhere I spayed the FF.
     
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    i fluid film my entire underside. Will do it again just before winter. then again in the spring. Its dirty job but its cheap
     
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    Yep another one for Fluid Film, I coat my 4Runner every fall and will do the Tacoma this year as well, awesome stuff. Just be sure that if doing it in the garage cover the floor or else you'll have a skating rink till you can get it off.
     
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    I found that out the hard way.
    I had to spray down my heavy duty grease cleaner and scrub the floor so I wasnt walking on ice
     
  14. Jun 6, 2016 at 7:17 AM
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    Ha yeah so did I. I scrubbed it twice with degreaser and I finally had to use brake clean to remove it. At least I know from that experience that it holds well.
     
  15. Jun 6, 2016 at 7:31 AM
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    jztacoma

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    I did fluid film on my 2010 last fall. First time doing it, usually just wire wheeled localized rust spots and did touch ups with paint and undercoating. Decided this year to add the fluid film at the end because of the good things I heard.
    Now I am not sure if its because of the shear number of miles I drove during the winter and the abuse the film took but it ended up washing off the film and I didn't know that I should have probably re-applied, but the fluid film almost did the opposite of what it should have. The salt and everything seemed to stick to it and the oil washed off or wore off causing a shit ton of rust to pop up. Owned the truck for 3.5 years and last year was the most amount of rust I have ever seen pop up.

    Now just traded my 2010 in for a 2015 and since the frame is like brand new I will be doing a good coating of epoxy paint and undercoating to make sure I never have an issue. I'm going to stay clear of oil filming the frame since I had a bad experience with it (I guess I am one of those random bad events). But I think if you re-apply constantly and keep an eye on it then you should be ok. Or if you only drive occasionally and it sits then it should help.

    If it helps I did a lot of driving in Michigan and also back and forths from Michigan and New York. So I got the famed Ohio, PA, and NY loving salt treatments
     
  16. Jun 6, 2016 at 7:57 AM
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    Cosmoline. Do a little research on it, you will be glad you did. Military grade rust proofer.

    Unless I am mistaken, anyone who undercoats the truck will void the frame warranty. Films don't void the warranty, though.
     
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    I got a Ziebart 10 year thing for under $500 when I bought my truck. It looks like they did a pretty thorough job. Doors were treated inside and bottom with the waxy/rubbery stuff. The under is completely coated and they did well to take off the rocker panels. I'm somewhat annoyed that the u-joint "zerks" are now coated and I'm not sure if i'll be able to do the lube job on them myself. Anyway, they inspect and re-spray where needed each year. I was going to use Krown ($130 a year for mid-size truck), but Ziebart wound up being cheaper over 10 years. Krown reviews are great but do mention that the stuff deteriorates rubber parts over time.
     
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    Have not heard of "fluid film", and expect it to be a "merican" version of rust preventative..... I love "Corrosion Free"... have used it on my last 6 vehicles and am a believer.....!! It's like Rust Check and Krown.... ..drill holes... spray it in.... This shit keeps on moving all year and forces water out of the door seams, etc...... It's a good idea to do every year if you want to keep your truck alive for more than 10 years or so, like I do...!!

    My 2 cents worth..! (0.66 US cents)....!!

    I live in the Great White North... (the "White" stands for SALT)....!!! (not Polar Bears)..
     
  20. Jun 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM
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    Why does undercoats like bed liner etc would void frame warranty...I thought it would be a good idea to prevent moisture from getting in?
     

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