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Rust?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by baidarka, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. Oct 15, 2015 at 5:43 AM
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    jake72

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    Anything is better then doing nothing aside from that worthless rubberized undercoating. Use some sort of oil based product. Sorry to say if your in the snow or salt region this will be a yearly thing.
     
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  2. Oct 15, 2015 at 1:39 PM
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    rust proofed or no?
    does your city use lots of salt in the winter?

    you're lucky it didn't I see so many on the road covered in rust. Not even that old. But then again it all depends how well you take care of it.
     
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  3. Oct 15, 2015 at 3:30 PM
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    Not rust proofed. City doesn't really run much salt, maybe for a week or two each winter if snow or ice. The truck did see a lot of off road use.
     
  4. Oct 15, 2015 at 3:54 PM
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    I had a 1990, loved it. was so sad when I blew the engine at the drag strip lol.

    but yep great cars. just expensive to maintain.
    15 year warranty on paint as well.
     
  5. Oct 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM
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    I just read under your pic now haha, you're in north texas. obviously not as bad down there.

    I'm in ontario dude, we see winter for a good 4-5months man. and in toronto they love to salt man. if the roads are dry, they are white throughout the winter here (and I dont mean white with snow) If you don't rust proof in this city, in two years you'll be seeing really bad rust.
     
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  6. Oct 15, 2015 at 4:08 PM
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    Good point. When I started oiling my cars, I thought maybe gear oil would be better...Ha, if you can get by th smell. After doing my wife's car, I had re oil the car twice to get the gear oil smell out.
     
  7. Oct 15, 2015 at 4:16 PM
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    I hear you. I don't want to undermine the comments of others but advice that revolves around winter driving is best left to those who do winter driving in high snow areas....Canada obviously, up state NY and the Midwest amoung others. Just living in coastal NE doesn't cut it when the snow is gone at noon time. Needing salt is just as much a function of cold as it is the actual amount of snow. If your highest temperature for a month at a time is 6 degrees, you will need lots of salt. If you wear shorts during the winter months and wear sweaters in the evening and northerners go to your climate for the winter, think before you offer advice on winter driving and rust and salt use. ( with all due respect)
     
  8. Oct 15, 2015 at 4:25 PM
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    completely understand.

    If someone is a afraid of rust when they live in a climate that doesn't have much of a winter its a bit pointless.
    Anyone up here though its something to really consider. last winter was really rough up here. I remember hearing on the news, they used more salt in 1 weeks than most other areas would use in a month. last winter there were only two days in february that weren't an extreme cold warning. I was under the impression the OP was in an area that received lots of snow etc.
     
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  9. Oct 15, 2015 at 4:32 PM
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    Our conditons are usually moderate with a little less then 100 inches of snow. Last year we had 100 inches in one month...nothing that compares to upstate NY, Canada and other areas. The dark colored trucks are white with salt most of the winter. Considering the frames are unpainted and the solution just sits in the door panels, you wonder why truck bodies don't rust even more. We are so depended on liquid calcium chloride solutions for such a long time, we would be very unsafe without it. Remember the days we used rock salt and sand. Broken windshields and frozen roads for weeks on end were the norm.
     
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  10. Oct 25, 2015 at 4:33 PM
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    Just adding my recent observations.

    I am waiting on delivery of my new Tacoma, and while looking at a new arrival at my dealer, I climbed underneath. This DCSB4x4TRDOR had just arrived and had been 'prepped' before being pulled in front for me to play with. So, the truck had had the shipping coatings removed and been washed, only hours before my arrival. As I climbed underneath, I observed the nicely painted frame. Black paint, but no wax or similar sealant, as far as I could see. But, and this is the point I'd like to make, many of the welded joints already had spots of red rust forming. From just one wash. Brand new truck with 7 factory miles on it.

    My thinking right now is that when I get my truck, before the undercarriage gets crapped up, I am going to spray rattle can rubberized undercoating on every frame weld that I can find. When that cures, hit them with Fluid Film.

    Just my two cents.................................. Frank
     
  11. Oct 25, 2015 at 9:04 PM
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    The holes are not as random as they appear.
    They are there for a crash. It forces the frame to crumple in a way that is safest for the people inside.
     
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    Rubberized undercoating......then FF
    Between the two, I would just stick with the FF
    I would be afraid the rubberized undercoating would get scraped, let moisture in and rust faster then being allowed to dry. That is the history of this stuff. That's why no commercial applier does it and guarantees it anymore.
     
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  13. Oct 26, 2015 at 1:26 AM
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    I live in NE. Bought 09 Tacoma new and had it rustproofed and undercoated. 5 winters later I traded it in. Had to crawl under to undo bolts securing my tool box in bed. Could not believe how clean it was under there. I am a believer. Buying 2016 Tacoma now and going to treat that as well.
     
  14. Oct 26, 2015 at 3:08 AM
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    Peoples' experiences are so varied. It is really hard to know the right answer to the rust prevention question.

    Frank
     
  15. Oct 26, 2015 at 4:39 AM
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    yes they do. Not enough to clog the drain holes but enough to coat the seams. Stuff is nasty when you have to reach into there to retrieve something.
     
  16. Oct 26, 2015 at 5:05 AM
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    Exactly.....a comment on a truck in NE lasting 5 years is pretty inexact. NE snowfall and temps vary so much, it's impossible to tell. I know people in NH up to Manchester who go 10 to 12 years on their Toyota products, never have the underneath treated and they are fine. Having a vehicle under coated is fine there if you want it to look good for 5 years. But if it's heavily salted by coastal climates and road salt along with extreme cold, the only way you are going to tell of it's rusted is prodding it with a sharp pick or blade screw driver.

    With all due respect, NE weather is varied and you can do almost anything for five years in most places. But if an astute buyer or dealer wants your car in trade in, he will find rust, regardless of what you have done in extreme areas.
     
  17. Oct 26, 2015 at 5:10 AM
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    In our area, I would not buy a 5 year old truck that had been undercoated with anything that covered up structures you could not inspect. Toyota uses wax material and privately people use oils...anything that allows for inspection. Otherwise, you hide the truth.
     
  18. Oct 26, 2015 at 5:23 AM
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    One of the reasons I think I'll be trying LPS Procyon corrosion inhibitor.
     
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  19. Oct 26, 2015 at 5:45 AM
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    I like those two statements when put together
    "I blew the engine at the drag strip..........just expensive to maintain"
    If that isn't a unique example of "special relativity", what is ?
    :rofl:
     
  20. Oct 26, 2015 at 7:23 AM
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    Anyone got a link to a nice overview for rust prevention? Would like to take the proactive steps for my 2016.

    Thanke
     
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