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Discussion in 'Boating & Fishing' started by Tacosail, May 2, 2017.

  1. Nov 27, 2018 at 9:32 PM
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    Boatbldr

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    Used to sail a Compac and campout on her over weekends
     
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  2. Nov 28, 2018 at 6:02 AM
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    We've tried camping out in the state park, but the amount of time I spend loading stuff into the truck and setting up the tent ends up being more time consuming than the drive.

    This thread has me giving serious consideration to selling my Hobie to finance a Catalina 22.....I think I might sail more if we can sleep on the boat and avoid 2+ hours of round trip driving in one day.

    I know the C22 isn't a huge boat, but does it have enough space to store some sleeping bags, pillows, and some "kitchen stuff"?
     
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  3. Nov 28, 2018 at 7:12 AM
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    C22's are great boats! Excellent weekender. You won't get anywhere very fast, but hell, we sail, non of us get there very fast! lol
     
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  4. Nov 28, 2018 at 3:26 PM
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    Take a look at the Rhodes-22. It is a great boat for singlehanding. The jib is roller reefing and the main has inmast furling . You can set both sails without leaving the cockpit. When done, both sails furl with no covers to mess with. Its well built and has 9 stays holding up the rig. You can lose any stay and the mast will still stay up. I've tested this more than once.
     
  5. Nov 28, 2018 at 6:16 PM
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    Well then.....The Rhodes 22 does look interesting!
     
  6. Nov 29, 2018 at 9:14 AM
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    I have a Capri 22. It’s the new version of the Catalina 22. I spend nights on it all the time with my wife and 2 60lbs dogs. It’s cramped but definitely doable, the Catalina 22 has more room in my opinion too, especially if you get a pop top.
     
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  7. Nov 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM
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    Definitely more interior volume in the C22 vs the "racey" CP22. I've spent some time on both as well. The CP22 sails so much better but the C22 is more comfy.
     
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  8. Nov 29, 2018 at 4:33 PM
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    Spot on. Both boats sail well but last time out I dusted a C22, but when I get back to the dock I wish I had a C22. Couldn’t really go wrong with either in my opinion, they are both amazing boats and will be a major upgrade over a hobie. Hobies are a blast but other that flying around on the lake are kinda useless (not to offend anyone with a hobie because I love them but in there element) for the overnights go with the C22 and sacrifice the .5 knots diffence in upwind speed. Coming from a hobie they are both going to feel like sailing a refrigerator anyway haha.
     
  9. Nov 29, 2018 at 4:41 PM
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    Also as for taking gear along, myself and two other guys sailed 20 miles to an island in Penobscot Bay this summer with all our camping gear, food for 5 days and enough survival gear for a small army, tugging a 10 foot inflatable with an 8hp outboard and 20 gallons of gas and had room to spare. She was noticeably slower but handled it fine will do it again in a heartbeat!!!

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  10. Nov 29, 2018 at 7:26 PM
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    I know a few people that have or have had Compac’s, they look like awesome little over night boats. The seam very seaworthy also. They definitely hold their value as well. I’ve looked at a few of them myself.
     
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  11. Nov 29, 2018 at 7:35 PM
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    Hey Everybody,

    How is everybody doing on this fine Thursday evening? What is the going price these days on used Lasers. Please give me some input.

    Thanks,
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  12. Nov 29, 2018 at 7:36 PM
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    Mine was a 16'9 had two cute little port hole windows. Her name was Magnolia. I have pics of her on a broken phone I need to remove from.
     
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  13. Nov 29, 2018 at 8:07 PM
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    Oh, no offense taken. Conditions have to be just right or the Hobie is downright miserable. I’ve done a couple distance races on Lake Erie and it was brutally physical and unfun without a spinnaker.

    I think you just sold me on the idea of a Catalina. The CP22 is a bit lighter, right?

    I jumped on a C22, once, when it was blowing too hard for the cats to go out. It was far more enjoyable than being beat to death by waves and pitchpoling my own boat. Being able to snack on a granola bar and drink a coke, while working the jib, was a pleasant change of pace too....
     
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  14. Nov 29, 2018 at 8:11 PM
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    The Catalina 22 is a great boat. Loved teaching on it.
     
  15. Nov 29, 2018 at 8:17 PM
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    It’s been a couple years since I’ve browsed the classifieds, but I’ve seen old worn out ones go for $500 and ones that are still competitive enough to race going for $2500.

    I think they’re over $5k new.
     
  16. Nov 30, 2018 at 10:34 AM
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    My only advice for C22 shopping is take a look at keel options. I believe the MkII edition came with a wing keel. All the others have a swing keel. The keel is raised and lowered with a crank and cable attached to the aft end of the keel, pivoting at the front. Inspect the shit out of that cable. My buddy bought a C25 with the swing keel and at the first launch the cable broke, the keel swung down, cracked the hull and sank.
     
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  17. Nov 30, 2018 at 3:12 PM
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    My CP22 is 2200lbs. The C22 is 2500lbs. Big difference is the keel. The C22 is a swing so it can be trailer launched. There is also a fixed wing or fin keel but they are less common. My CP22 is a fin keel and I can’t trailer launch. They make a Capri sport that is a swing keel. You will lose a bit of pointing ability but it is the same boat as the Capri it just has the keel of the C22.

    They are definitely more comfortable. Also very seaworthy. I’ve had my boat out in 25knts gusting 35 many times and it handles it perfect with a single reefed main and a 110 or so Genoa. We had to beat back from a harbor about 15 miles north of us this past summer with winds of 20-30 with 5-6ft seas. Boat ran flawlessly with a full main and jib hardly any weather helm and about 800lbs of crew weight. I also have gotten 8 knots out of her with my spinnaker in about 15 knots of breeze. I think I could hit double digits maybe low teens with the right conditions and the right crew.
     
  18. Dec 1, 2018 at 8:32 AM
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    Hey Everybody,

    I have to do some Teak work today on our old Whaler. If anybody out there is a teak expert, please private message me. I have some questions I need answered. We are restoring an old Boston Whaler Classic Sport 15, and I have replaced all of the mahogany with teak.

    Thanks in advance for all of your replies.

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  19. Dec 1, 2018 at 10:12 PM
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    https://interlux.com/en/us/boat-paint/varnish/cetol-marine-natural-teak
     
  20. Dec 3, 2018 at 8:59 AM
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    Oh.....I didn't think about keels. The state park that we usually sail probably doesn't have any option other than trailer launching.....
     

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