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Satoshi, Grillcraft. What's the difference?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Jefes Taco, May 18, 2014.

  1. May 18, 2014 at 9:51 AM
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    Jefes Taco

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    Exactly?

    I've been contemplating doing a Satoshi or similar grill w/ the FJ Toyota badge for that 'old school' look.

    I'm just trying to figure out what the real difference is between a Satoshi grill and the Grillcraft or similar inserts.

    Also, I've found complete factory grills, painted to match even, for around $200. I'm considering buying a replacement grill to do this and keeping the factory grill to go back to stock if needed/wanted. Anything to watch out for? It looks like you get the entire grill unit. I.e. the surround, painted, and the black inner grill.
     
  2. May 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM
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    Satoshi is just referring to the grille mesh being recessed from the grille surround. Whereas the GrillCraft sits flush with the surround.

    I think most people buy OEM color-matched replacements from camelback toyota because they offer a very competitive price (something like $180 or so). OEM grilles include the entire grille assembly but lack the Toyota emblem that goes in the center as far as I know.

    EDIT: camelback link, and their pics show the Toyota emblem in the center so I guess it is included.

    http://parts.camelbacktoyota.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=1118073&siteid=214329&catalogid=9000
     
  3. May 18, 2014 at 10:06 AM
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    Thank you.

    That was succinct but complete. :thumbsup:
     
  4. May 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM
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    The biggest difference is the satoshi grill is a completely custom made grill. Either you have to build the grill or buy it from someone like homertaco.

    A grill craft grill is a manufactured grill insert.
     
  5. May 18, 2014 at 11:42 AM
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    This is an interesting question. I know what the Grillcraft Co is & I know what a Satoshi grill is.
    But who/what is Satoshi? Is Satoshi a man? A Japanese custom car designer? There's nothing online except Satoshi Nakamoto the bitcoin guy/group and Tacoma World references. The word Satoshi grill had to have come from somewhere. ???
     
  6. May 18, 2014 at 1:45 PM
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    Credit due River Rat 69 for his post on 2013/06/30 w/ the info you request.
    The above was originally posted in the "Show us your Satoshi..." Thread.

    Related Links:

    Miura Satoshi's geocities page w/ pictures of his 4Runner w/ "The Original Satoshi Grill Mod"

    Satochi's Home Page (geocities.jp) Sorry Japanese Only

    Yotatech "Write Up: The Satoshi Grill Mod" from 2004/02/19

    Yotatech ":) Satoshi grille mod...done" from 2003/11/29

    Again, thanks goes to River Rat 69 :proposetoast:
    His post was the 1st info I got, other than "Satoshi was named for the 1st guy to do the mod"

    Enjoy surfin' the history

    Had some other 4runner.org links, but they seem to be dead.



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  8. May 19, 2014 at 8:07 AM
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  9. May 20, 2014 at 4:56 AM
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