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Screw in tire groove. Repairable?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by inhiliator5000, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:33 PM
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    inhiliator5000

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    ****UPDATE****
    discount tire would not repair it, stating i would have to get a tire. I told them i wanted to get a second opinion before i considered it. I went to a reputable mom & pop shop and they ended up plugging it up. It's good for now, but should I start saving up for a spare tire eventually? how long should i expect a plug to last? thanks everyone for your replies.



    Hey everyone. ran into some bad luck today. noticed this guy this afternoon.

    Is this repairable? just got these tires back in march from discount tire (did not purchase warranty)

    opinions?

    thanks all!IMG_2287.jpg
     
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  2. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:39 PM
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    If it is in fact actually leaking , then yes it is in a unrepairable location
    Have you sprayed soapy water to check if it is in fact leaking air ?? . you might get lucky and all it did was penetrate the lug and not the tire itself
     
  3. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:40 PM
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    I disagree. If it is leaking, plug it and move on. If no leak, same answer.
     
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  4. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:53 PM
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    Discount Tire will not repair it since it is on the shoulder. With that said, plenty of smaller mom and pop tire stores will. Or you can buy a plug kit and do it yourself.
     
  5. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:55 PM
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    Its not in the side wall. I'm clearly seeing it in the tread. It can be fixed.
     
  6. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:57 PM
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    if it matters, when i put water on the screw it bubbles ever so slightly. thanks guys for all the replies!

    ETA: will be back tomorrow morning, heading into discount and will post results!
     
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  7. Sep 13, 2017 at 11:58 PM
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    For that matter, if you are on this site, you must have a desire to take care of some of your own maintanance.

    Consider picking up a tire plug kit. They work great and are cheap. Amazon has many choices.[​IMG]
     
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  8. Sep 14, 2017 at 12:00 AM
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    I had one in a similar location on my ST Max, and Discount tire did repair mine.
     
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    Most big name tire stores will not repair this for liability reasons and that would be from the last tread lug to the sidewall . now as mentioned yes you can have a small mom & pop store do it as they don't care for safety concerns . You can also do the repair yourself if capable of doing so

    If you do have a small mom & pop store do the repair and want a good laugh , fill your tire with up to 3 cans of green tire slimeand then don't tell them . sit back and watch the fun as the tire tech gets sprayed in the face by the green slime as he repairs your tire !!!
     
  10. Sep 14, 2017 at 12:11 AM
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    Just go to tire discount and ask for a patch I'm sure they will do it I have had a lot of tires patched and still work just like new after. If they don't want to just go to your local tire shop and they will do it for you. It's only like 15$
     
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    Punctures like the above are why I like plugging my own.

    To have a patch installed, the tire has to be removed completely from the rim. The patch is installed and then the tire is remounted and re balanced. This is just more opportunities for your rims to be scratched.

    To do the job plugging the tire yourself is 10 minutes.

    If you don't have a compressor, go to a self serve gas station and park next to the air pump.
     
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  12. Sep 14, 2017 at 12:18 AM
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    If it was further down the corner going on into the sidewall area, then I'd be a bit concerned. BUT, it looks like it is barely even at the corner (i.e. a bit more in the tread section area). So, in my humble opinion, it SHOULD be repairable, but tire industry has changed some of its policies regarding repairs and such. I know this as I did it for some time as a tire tech.

    Agreed, I will admit that it was back in the day, but quite honestly, we repaired "damages" like that near the corner. If it was ON the corner or past it and somewhat down the sidewall/shoulder then NO, but it looks like it's in a "repairable zone". So yeah, I agree.

    Yeah, like I said, the tire industry changes its "rules" and from my understanding, they would consider that non-repairable now? I can't even BEGIN to tell you all how many tires I've repaired!!! Again, quite honestly, that would be repairable back THEN. But again, that was back then and I understand that this is the "here and now". If I had my own changer, balancer, and repair stand w/ plug-patches, I would do it myself.

    Agreed. It looks more in the actual tread area!!!

    In my experiences, a lot of it has to do with the actual store manager. If it was obviously on the side-wall itself then yes, it would be non-repairable. THIS particular one is a "judgment call", if you ask me, which is probably why yours got repaired?. Again, I would have repaired it and not even think twice about it. Maybe look at the area from time-to-time to make sure it is not separating, but if the patch-plug is done correctly, the likelihood of THAT tire separating is extremely LOW!!!

    Just my 2cents on the matter!!! :thumbsup:
     
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  13. Sep 14, 2017 at 12:23 AM
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    The OP did not get the tire warranty when he purchased. It would be a shitty tire dealer to brow beat the OP int buying a new tire. My prediction is the tire will be patched for free as a good will gesture by the the TD'er.
     
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    The ONLY thing about plugs though is that you risk air seeping in between the liner/inner-layers and eventually causing a tread separation. BUT, the risk, I must admit, is still fairly low even for that, but it is still there. A patch-plug along with the rubber overcoat reduces the risk even further.

    I'm NOT necessarily disagreeing with you, just saying what the possible risks are with plugs vs patch-plug (a.k.a. combo patch, where the rubber plug is "molded" as part of the patch itself).
     
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    Yeah, very much agree here!!! :thumbsup:
     
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    Had a similar problem but I had the warranty and only had the tires on for 8 days. It was not repairable at discount but I get a free tire since 90 days and warranty. Plugged it up cuz i had to wait for the tire.it's been fine for almost 2 weeks. Even did some heavy offroading. Will be getting it replaced tmrw but haven't had problems with the plug. If u do have to plug it yourself then I would keep an eye on it.
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    Plug it an move on to the next drywall screw or nail in the road. They can also patch the tire from the inside. If not I will give you $10 for the tire so I only will have to buy three new ones :) you pay shipping... :p Let me know the size of the new tire on that nice truck....
     
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    That is awfully close. I just had one on my Yukon that my GM dealer would not fix because it was within an inch to the sidewall. I disagreed and thought it should have been but they wouldn't fix it and got me for a tire. To me, I think that should be able to be fixed but you may have to find a shop that will plug it or patch it.
     
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    For the most part, basically what I've been saying all along. I was a tire tech for about 14yrs so I'm pretty well aware of what is repairable. So, very much agree with you on that one as it is pretty close, but, in my humble opinion, still repairable!!! I'd throw on a combo patch and not even think twice about it after... if I had the machines to do it with myself.
     
  20. Sep 14, 2017 at 5:41 PM
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    Oh I agree with you for sure but I have issues getting people to fix what I know should be fixed. They just flat out refuse at times. :)
     
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