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Seat wiring question, buckets vs bench & dash warning light

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Xaks, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. Apr 2, 2016 at 6:42 AM
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    Xaks

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    So, I went ahead and took out the bench seat from Audra and swapped in the buckets from an 07 double cab, because reasons.

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    Now, in so doing, I learned a couple lessons. The drivers side seat belt, mounting hardware and all, also need to be swapped out, as the tongue is wider on the DC drivers side. The passenger side was fine.

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    I also found that, while the wiring clips under the seats to connect the sensors to the computer went right into place on the drivers' side, the passenger side is very different.
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    Thus, even though there's noone in the truck with me, I have this annoying warning indicator up on my dash all the time.
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    I've not had any luck finding a replacement clip that I can use, or a gender bender/adapter. At this point I'm wondering...can I just cut the damned wires behind the clip heads and hard splice them together to restore the normal sensor function for the passenger seat?
     
  2. Apr 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM
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    Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
     
  3. Apr 4, 2016 at 1:35 PM
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    How many wires? Same # and colors in each plug? ( Black/Lavender, Green, and Lavender Wires are for the Occupant Sensor ). Be careful of the side airbag wiring you don't want that sucker going off. Those wires should be Yellow or Yellow with a black strip for the Airbag Squib. Don't screw with them unless you have the battery disconnected for 30 minutes or more first.

    If it is just a few I would get some jumper wires made up and try a temporary jumper between each first.
     
  4. Apr 4, 2016 at 1:44 PM
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    You took seats from a standard cab to a double cab? The standard cab has a switch to turn off the bag IIRC. No switch on a DC. This might be the source of your problem

    I'm thinking you will need to install a resistor on that extra plug.

    The SRS ECU does a continuity test on every start up. I checks for intact wires and correct resistance on each connector. If these are incorrect you get the light.

    I'll have to think on this more.
     
  5. Apr 4, 2016 at 5:06 PM
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    I'll pop the seat back up and take some better pics to show you what I mean.

    Uh, yea, there is a switch on the dash to turn off the airbag, I hadn't even thought of turning it off though, as (a) I'd want to have it working for the rare occasions I have a passenger, and (b) would turning it off discontinue the red light? I'll have to try that and see
     
  6. Apr 4, 2016 at 7:09 PM
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    I don't know. Try it and find out.

    As said earlier, make sure power is disconnected. You don't need to wait 30 minutes. Just step on the brake pedal. This removes any " surface voltage". I don't know who came up with that term, but it sounds fancy and intelligent.

    It really takes a lot of factors to blow a bag. Yes, 9 volts will do it, but the SRS ECU is the only thing that can supply that voltage...and it won't do a thing unless several sensors are giving it data to make a decision.

    I rebuild these trucks as a hobby. I go to many yards with wrecked vehicles. The number of cars that are destroyed in an accident, but the bags are not blown, will amaze you. On the other hand, the same number of cars that have minimal damage, yet the bags are blown, is just as amazing.

    I tell everyone, seat belts save lives and they always work. The same can not be said for air bags. Don't assume they will go off in an accident.

    Many news articles about the "bad" air bags in recent cars. I actually have a recall on one vehicle for this. It means nothing to me. I just assume any air bag won't blow in an accident. If it does, I consider it a bonus.

    SRS. Supplemental restraint system, there is a reason it has this name.
     
  7. Apr 4, 2016 at 7:12 PM
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    I went out into the garage to see if I could test it without turning over the motor, and no dice. So, the next time I start her, to go to work tomorrow morning, I'm gonna try turning it off on the dash and see if it works or not.

    I totally agree with you otherwise. I don't move the truck without a seatbelt on. My first three vehicles didn't have seat belts in them, and the belt saved my face a couple of times now, so I'm a believer in them. I never, ever don't wear them.
     
  8. Apr 5, 2016 at 6:17 AM
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    OK, update: Turning the dash switch for the passenger airbag off does not change the status of the indicator light on the dash. It thus appears to be the seat switch only.

    Not sure if I can get pics of the connectors tonight or not, I've got a date immediately after work and I don't know if I'll get home before dark.
     
  9. Apr 6, 2016 at 4:47 PM
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    So, the underside of the passenger side bucket (2007) looks like this
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    There's a place for one plug, six posts in vertical groups of two

    Coming out of the floor of my regular cab are these two things. First, at the seat belt connector point at the floor by the door:
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    The one bear the transmission hump:
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