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Selecting a mild lift (TRD Baja TX Pro + Icon AAL)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Aug 3, 2015.

  1. Oct 13, 2015 at 6:23 PM
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    Ok, here it is, I think it may have been misunderstood from the paper instructions in the other thread. Toytec says on their site the progressive AAL increases capacity, when used with the overloads, giving 2" lift. OR remove the overloads for superior ride, giving 1.5" lift.
    https://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/mobile/Toytec-Progressive-3-Leaf-Add-A-Leaf-Pack_p_976.html

    Of course one technically shouldn't load more weight than a vehicle is rated for as there are more dependencies to that weight rating than just the rear suspension.

    The Tacoma isn't a heavy lifting truck, especially the DCSB. It does well for light home owner duty such as hauling mulch, dump runs, and hauling stuff from Home Depot. Based on my uses the AAL does better than stock. If you heavily load your truck, or tow heavy items, you should leave the overloads in.
     
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  2. Oct 13, 2015 at 6:27 PM
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    i heard AALs with the overload removed will eventually settle to 1" of lift. Anyone experience this?
     
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    Maybe that's because without the overload you're able to take the spring into more of a negative arch. (just thinking out loud)
     
  4. Oct 13, 2015 at 6:30 PM
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    Everything sags, so who knows what is accurate.

    Overload left in - 2" +/-
    Overload removed - 1.5" +/-
     
  5. Oct 13, 2015 at 6:32 PM
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    Yes. Still love the ride, though.
     
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  6. Oct 13, 2015 at 6:32 PM
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    I'm looking for 1" and a smoother ride so that's good news.
     
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    Bear in mind that I'm running the Off Road factory springs (+ Icon AAL), the softest OEM leaf pack in automotive history. Can't carry much, but I like the ride.
     
  8. Oct 13, 2015 at 6:48 PM
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    thanks man. I think the only thing holding you back from tipping over is that set of brass balls that allowed you to even attempt this!
     
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    Just poser parking for fun. This setup stuffs and droops to my satisfaction.
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    I am having a member of TW who is local to me do the install - one of the reasons I love Tacoma World!! Unfortunately, I do not have tools, the space (live in a condo association without a driveway) nor the experience to do the install myself. I am very much looking forward to the appearance of the truck and the ability to haul/tow without pointing headlights to the sky.
     
  11. Oct 14, 2015 at 9:56 AM
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    get rid of that front sway bar and get some front flex!!!!

    Love that hidden winch mount i want one so bad!
     
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    Thinking about the sway-bar delete. Want stiffer front springs before I do. #dailydriverproblems
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    I rock my truck with stock TRD OR springs on 5100's at 1.75 without a swaybar and LOVE the way it drives on and off road. Give it a try, its 20 min of your time and free of charge.
     
  14. Oct 18, 2015 at 5:10 PM
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    And upon further inspection, the forward clamp on the AAL itself (the one I attached the e-brake line clamp to) has broken loose of where it was riveted to the mini-pack. How big a problem is this? Is there a good way of reattaching it? I took it off for right now...
     
  15. Oct 18, 2015 at 5:15 PM
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    Did you flex out? Based on my testing the ebrake cable is not long enough to attach to the AAL and flex to max droop, so I am not surprised it caused an issue. That is why I suggested to not attach it there. Do you have pics?
     
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    Yes. Flexed out quite frequently. Fairly certain the Icon-supplied directions said to attach it there.

    Here's a shot of where it used to be:

    This is the piece:

    And the e-brake clamp. For the moment.

    Thinking about adding the factory overloads back in anyway: That will allow securing of the cables. But I have to imagine the failed clamp with its cross-pin had a role keeping the whole pack together when flexed. Thoughts?
     
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    You may have had an earlier generation pack, as others mentioned earlier in the thread there are some descrepancies. Mine had no mount point on the AAL.

    Adding the overloads back will give you 2" of lift. The cables don't have that to spare if you secure them to the overload and flex out, so you will likely just introduce other issues.

    I'd monitor how the packs do without the clamp and see if it is even an issue. I have my ebrake cable clamp zip tied to the next most forward clamp ahead of the spring. This allows for just enough play when flexed out to max.
     
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    On another note, does the separation between the stock leaves shown in my 3rd picture look okay to you? This has opened up more than on my passenger side.
     
  19. Oct 18, 2015 at 6:32 PM
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    It looks like you have the 2 leaf rears? I just checked mine and have no separation. I wouldn't be too concerned unless it presents an issue, though the 2 leafs are know to have several issues and I think can be replaced under Toyota TSB for the proper 3 leaf pack. I'd probably take the opprotunity to spray between the leafs with Fluid glum to prevent squeaks and corrosion.
     
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    Yes, 2 leaf + overload, now 46,000 miles. Read somewhere that TSB spring replacement not applicable to my year and now my mileage. Going to dig into that a little more.
    Thanks again for all the responses. Think I'll just add the factory overloads back in and run that way for a while.
    Dakars with 3rd leaf removed might be next for me.
     

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