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Serious question about the AF and Navy in Iraq

Discussion in 'Military' started by rsincavage85, Jun 4, 2010.

  1. Jun 4, 2010 at 8:14 PM
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    rsincavage85

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    Not trying to bust balls or anything. When I was in Iraq last year COB Taji, dont worry google maps shows a huge freekin 1 CAV patch on th runway. We had AF staying in the next pod from us, what was thier mission? anyone. I am jealous they played volleyball 24/7 while I busted my ass out on missions. And some Navy I know ran the jail there but did they do the EW couter measures for certain areas.? Not looking for specifics for obvious reasons just curious.

    Thanks
     
  2. Jun 4, 2010 at 8:25 PM
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    Not much......college student using the GI Bill to survive.
    My brother was in Afghanistan stationed with Germany's NATO force. He would go on missions with them. He's an FMF Corpsman but I don't know what he did to be honest.
     
  3. Jun 4, 2010 at 8:32 PM
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    Being an Air Force member, we have plenty of Airman who serve side by side as gunner's in convoy's; I would venture to say for as few Transportation folks we have compared to the Army, we pull more than our fair share. In fact many of our Transportation folks see plenty of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan....the same with our EOD folks. Probably the folks you had next to you were responsible for irfield operations??? Maybe they worked in the control tower if you had an airfield...I really couldn't say since you gave limited info on what the mission of the base was. Consider the fact that the Air Frce in it's true inherent nature is not a ground combat force and then you will understand why the majority of the jobs are not as rough as the Army. I would venture to bet that if there were Air Force flying units at your base, the Crew Chiefs and flightline maintenance guys were busting their humps; as well as out SF guys guarding the base as well. As Army, you're always going to think the Air Force is a bunch of wusses...always has been and always will be the perception. Instead of questioning why they play volleybal all day, you should be questioning why you didn't build a bridge or repoir with them.....
     
  4. Jun 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM
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    Thanks for your service.

    No telling without someone who was there, why did you not just go over and ask.

    And yeah...you were clearly trying to bust balls.
     
  5. Jun 4, 2010 at 8:44 PM
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    That's pretty funny...Marines think the same exact thing about the Army...odd
     
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    My best friend is pararescue other then that AF is garbage...... lol im just kidding, however ya'll are some smart mo fo's ill give ya that for sure.
     
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    yeah believe it or not, some of us airmen have seen some shit, and some havent seen anything other than a desk in a finance office. We are human though, we do speek english, all you have to do is go ask them what they do. Some people just need to stop being ignorant and realize no matter what your job is in the military, we are on the same team and every job has an impact on our cause...
     
  8. Jun 4, 2010 at 8:50 PM
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    I think thats funny. Good ol i work harder then you or im more of a bad ass. I just laugh and say " well that sucks for you my pay doesnt change either way"
     
  9. Jun 5, 2010 at 10:12 AM
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    That's why when you other services bust us Air Force guys we just laugh and think..."Well I rather work smarter not harder" Yes it does suck to sleep indoors and work in the AC on the hot days while the rest of you sleep in holes dug out in the ground and in tight quarters on ships. But hey, we all got to make the choice of what service we joined. And right if by justifying your job you think "I'm tougher because I'm not in the Air Force" Then angain, I get the same pay as you. Don't know too many folks who rather be serving in another service than The Air Force, but hey we're all one team one fight, and I appreciate what the other services do.
     
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    Us Air Force security forces deploy alot. we do mainly guarding the flightline and stuff. we sometimes go outside the wire and do convoys
     
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    No not trying to bust balls, I was just curious, you honestly don't klnow who on this site may have been there at that time. I know we had UAV's and their was an air strip. I am only curious because they had no military vehicles 4x4 vans that were 15 passenger, and pick-ups. some master sgt would always bitch at us about parking out FMTV's in what they said was thier assigned spots. I was just curious. Never said they didn't see any shit. Besides relax I never said no one did their part. The AF has some of the coolest electronics stuff I like. Besides after about a week they put up a big tarp between the t-walls like they didn't want us bothering them. So I just did my missions and relaxed when I had time to. Thanks anyway, sorry f I hurt any feelings, didn't mean to.
     
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    I've got a good buddy who is AF, did 4 tours. He's a firefighter and said that two of the tours were boring as hell, they were on-base only, so really only had a call when a plane crashed on the runway. Spent most of the time playing xbox and volleyball.

    The other two he was attatched to an army unit for off base calls, and he definately saw some shit during those.
     
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    When I was over there I stayed on a JSS in the middle of baghdad, We occasionally had some airforce attach to us that where specialized in certain things but they didnt stay long, and we had the navy guys come in to fix jammers on our humvee's. So I guess everyone has there job. And we have a lot of "Support MOS'S" in the army that honestly do way less I'd base what someone does on there MOS not there branch of service, cause we all have FOBBITS and we all have guys that actually do stuff.
     
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    Every service does something. Closest I've been to in a war zone was the Army (aside our Navy Corpsman). I just didn't understand contractors...why pay a company a trillion dollars to do something a service member can do...
     
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    wat?
    i was at tallil AB/LSA adder back in 06 and the army guys there lived better than the AF. army=hardened trailers, AF=tents.......army=MWR facility w/ like 15 40" w/ 360, 6-8 pool tables, etc...AF=a bunch of shabby tents w/ 1 projection tv hooked to a dvd player and like 5 booths w/ 360s...

    it's not always the same across the board. we had a monument in the center of AF tent city to the airman that had died while on deployment there...many doing gunner duty like someone else stated above...

    and i guess it's my fault i signed up for combat comm...:rolleyes:

    :D
     
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    Shoot SarcotheInfidel a PM asking the same thing, he was in my unit over in OIF, and could probably give you some insight. I was only in Iraq for the invasion back on '03. As far as Navy goes, Individual augmentees to the Army, EOD, security forces, EW, ETC....I know tons of fleet sailors who've been on the ground sucking dust like everyone else. If they are playing volleyball all day, they probably have some hooch, and more importantly, women. Think about it....
     
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    It's not the branch, it's the MOS (or rate or whatever). There are support personnel in every branch. Their jobs are important, of course, and we are all on the same team. That being said, I have to admit that I feel a sense of pride for having been infantry.
     
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    Yeah, I'm going back to school and getting my commission now. I'll be a Lieutenant in the Medical Service Corps in December. Talk about a desk job! Lol I'm gonna be a fobbit and soak up all the A/C!
     
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