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Seriously... wtf

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by rab89, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM
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    rab89

    rab89 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    What is wrong with the world. lock this freak up and never let him go!


    Vince Li has been found not criminally responsible for the unprovoked killing and beheading of fellow passenger Timothy McLean on a Greyhound bus last summer.

    Manitoba Court of Queen's Bench Judge John Scurfield said Thursday that Li, 40, could not be found guilty of murder and is not criminally responsible for the crime because he was mentally ill at the time of the killing.

    "These grotesque acts are appalling... but are suggestive of a mental disorder," the judge said.

    "He did not appreciate the act he committed was wrong."

    Li had pleaded not guilty to a charge of second-degree murder. Psychiatric evidence at his trial suggested he is a schizophrenic who suffered a major psychotic episode last July 30 when he fatally stabbed McLean, 22, ate some of the body parts, and cut off McLean's head.

    For five hours after the killing, Li wandered around on the bus, from which passengers had fled along the Trans-Canada Highway, defiling the body while an RCMP tactical team waited to subdue him.

    Rather than go to prison, Li will be kept in a secure psychiatric facility, most likely in Selkirk, Man.

    McLean, a carnival worker, was returning home to Winnipeg on the bus from Edmonton. Listening to his iPod while sitting in the back row of Greyhound bus 1170, he gave Li a friendly greeting as the stranger sat down beside him.

    Then, around 8:30 p.m. CT, when the bus was near Portage La Prairie, Man., Li pulled a buck knife from his side and began stabbing McLean — for no apparent reason, witnesses said. After passengers fled the bus, Li was barricaded inside the vehicle.

    During the stabbing, Li was heard to say, "get emergency." During the five-hour standoff, he walked around the bus carrying the severed head in one hand, the knife in the other. At one point, he threw McLean's head into the bus's stairwell.

    When police finally subdued him, Li repeatedly said he was sorry but could not say what he was sorry for, officers said. He told police he had changed his name to Vince Day. And he said, "I'm guilty, please kill me."

    Psychiatrists testified Li was schizophrenic and suffering a major psychotic episode at the time of the killing.

    Li heard voices from God telling him that McLean was an evil threat that needed to be eliminated, the psychiatrists said. Even after the killing, Li believed McLean might come back to life and threaten him. The psychiatrists testified Li fit the criteria for someone who was not criminally responsible for their actions due to mental illness.

    That means he will be sent to a provincial psychiatric facility rather than to prison. He comes under the jurisdiction of Manitoba's provincial review board, which will decide whether he poses a risk to the public. The review board has the power to keep Li locked up indefinitely or, if he is no longer considered a risk, discharge him.

    McLean's family had been lobbying for a change in the Criminal Code to prevent mentally ill killers from eventually being returned to the community. His mother, Carol de Delley, said after the ruling that she would do everything in her power to ensure Li is never released from secure custody.

    "I think it's ridiculous that we've not only had to endure this procedure but we get to endure it every year again for the rest of Mr. Li's natural life," de Delley said, describing Li as dangerous. She urged Canadians to lobby politicians for changes to the Criminal Code.

    "Bear in mind, this isn't going to be saving any of us, we've already had our loss," she said. "It's to save everybody else. And that's been put on us now. And we sure as hell didn't volunteer for that job, but it is ours now."
     
  2. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:30 AM
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    They should give him to AlQueda. Taste of his own medicine. Then we launch artillery attacks on the fuckers in the caves. Win Win from my point of view
     
  4. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:44 AM
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    mws4ua

    mws4ua I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.

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    Put me on that review board. He sure as hell does pose a risk to society! I don't care if he can be 'normal' with meds eventually. What if he stops taking meds? He killed a RANDOM STRANGER b/c GOD told him that the guy was EVIL. There's no way anybody will ever convince me this guy is fit to return to society. Maybe the law doesn't allow criminal prosecution, but he should stay behind closed doors forever.
     
  5. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM
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    I actually had a schizophrenic guy chase me with a skateboard because he was off his meds... this guy will kill again if he were to ever be in public and didnt take his meds.
     
  6. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:50 AM
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    That guy is f***ed and should be in maximum secturity forever. I bet in the next two years his mental illness clears up from his meds and his deemed "fit" for society. Probably a good reason not to take the bus. Especially since he locked up less than 2 hours from me.
     
  7. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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    yea thats the worst part he's way too close for comfort, about 4 hours from me.
     
  8. Mar 5, 2009 at 10:53 AM
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    FlawedXJ mall crawlin', web wheelin', concrete cowboy

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    he's like a car....if its repair costs exceed its value....get rid of it.

    Seriously, if your fucked up enough to behead somebody on a bus full of people watching, theres no fixing you.
     
  9. Mar 5, 2009 at 11:11 AM
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    Dilsky There go my nipples again!

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    This was just one messed up incident. Never again will I ride the greyhound or let anyone I know ride it if I can stop it. The red arrow in Alberta isn't as bad as it costs a little more and thus gets rid of the riff raff.

    I had an uncle that was schizophrenic and he was kinda weird even when he was on his meds. I spent most of my childhood growing up with him around and loved him very much, however, if he had ever pulled anything like this, I would have no problem locking him up for good.
     
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    exactly. My aunt has schizophrenia and for a while she quit taking her meds. It was awful to watch her sometimes. You could immediately see her change and she'd start ranting about how we stole her car and what not.
     
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    Man this is messed up...he'll most likely get let out, stop taking his medication, and kill someone again. I remember reading this a while back...blows my mind that there's even a chance he could ever be let go.
     
  12. Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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    He WAS mentally ill? How can he not be mentally ill anymore?!?!?!?!? I mean therapy and rehab but still you can't not become mentally ill...wtf?
     
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    That reminds me of the incident we had here at Virginia Tech a few weeks ago. A chinese student beheaded his chinese friend in one of our dining places. Sick
     
  14. Mar 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM
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    tacoholic 09 but I drive a 012 Expedition...

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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    (yea that would be pretty sick)
     
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    he needs to have his head cut off with a dull butterknife.
     
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    WTF Where the cops doing and why not just shoot to kill and end it right there? The guy was obviously a threat since he beheaded a dude with a knife. They should have put one behind his ear and thinned the herd!
     
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