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Setting Up Ubuntu Server???

Discussion in 'Technology' started by lsocoee, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. Dec 4, 2008 at 7:39 AM
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    I bought a mini itx motherboard and a 1 TB hard drive and I am going to be setting up an always on server for my house. This will be something to store all of our files on. Let's get something clear before I start talking, I know slightly more than nothing about Linux.

    Here's what I'd like to do
    *Easily share files within the LAN and WAN between Ubuntu, XP, Vista - My wife is a technophobe and won't do this if it is hard for her.

    *Backup files from Ubuntu Server to my main XP machine - I perform regular backups to a local hard drive and to Mozy with my XP desktop

    *Remotely access the desktop - I don't want to have a dedicated monitor, keyboard, and mouse

    *Have a GUI - I'm thinking the newest desktop version of Ubuntu, because a command line only box really scares me.

    *Remotely access files through FTP or through webpage (I have a dynamic IP though) - Which is easier, faster, and most secure? I'd like to be able to stream music and movies and access the other files.

    Here are some of my concerns
    *I have never run anything from the command line, most of the guides that I have been reading say completely different things. I'd rather not get in over my head.

    *If I lose power do I lose all my settings or are they saved for when you reboot?

    *If I open this up to the internet, how do I make sure I secure the files appropriately?

    Do any of you folks know of some good tutorials to do what I am planning? I found this, but I don't know about the accuracy of everything. http://www.instructables.com/id/Set-up-your-very-own-Web-server

    I have a copy of XP Pro, Windows Server 2008 Basic, Ubuntu Server, and Ubuntu desktop. What program would you run for your server? I have seen that Windows Home Server is available for purchase, but I'd rather not buy a copy.
     
  2. Dec 4, 2008 at 7:42 AM
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    I thought you did this for a living? Shouldn't YOU be the expert?;)

    I'm just messing with ya Robert!
     
  3. Dec 4, 2008 at 7:43 AM
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    I'm a mechanical engineer, sorry. You're lucky I haven't inadvertently crashed TW.
     
  4. Dec 4, 2008 at 7:46 AM
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    Well hell, I thought you did IT crap. All I know how to do is turn on the computer, get to the internet and get to the porn!:eek:
     
  5. Dec 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM
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    Ill let you knw as im doing the same thing.
    There is a new Ver of Ubuntu and Fedora out!
    If I were you I would use the KDE desktop might be a little easer on you.
    and I think they both have a server edition.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2008 at 9:39 AM
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    I'll probably do it in stages. I'll start out by first getting ubuntu up, remote desktop, sharing locally, and backing up to my XP machine. Then I'll worry about the other stuff.
     
  7. Dec 4, 2008 at 10:25 AM
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    Well if you need any help PM me, Im a Systems Admin @ a bank so I do that stuff allday.
    but im still kinda new to Linux working on teaching my self.
     
  8. Dec 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM
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    alright thanks.
     
  9. Dec 4, 2008 at 11:59 AM
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    thanks phantom. I'm going to check those out. I'll be doing the initial install tonight, then I'll work on the server side of things.
     
  10. Dec 4, 2008 at 12:11 PM
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    from what I'm figuring, it looks like LAMP is only necessary if I want to setup a real webpage. I'm thinking FTP might be much friendlier for someone like myself.
     
  11. Dec 6, 2008 at 7:14 PM
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    linux sucks.

    I got the OS installed and then I started going through some of the tutorials and I keep getting errors when I try to run some of the assorted programs. I'll try installing Hardy Heron and hopefully that will turn out better.
     
  12. Dec 6, 2008 at 8:51 PM
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    At my work, all our software is written to run on Linux. It's an OS for the real computer geeks. We use a version of Linux called 64Studio. It's similar to Ubuntu. My experience is that Linux is very complex and very few people are what you would call experts. There are forums with tips and tricks all over the net. Hardware issues are very common. It takes a while for new hardware to become supported because people in the open source community have to write drivers for them after the hardware is on the market. Sometimes the "fixes" that people post in forums don't work for your system because libraries don't match.

    I'd say the internet is a great resource for info, you may just have to sift through a lot of info to find what you need. For error messages, I'd copy them into Google. That's helped me fix several issues I've had on my desktop machine at work. Also, I have an O'Riely book on Ubuntu that has been great. It goes over how to do some of the more common tasks in pretty plain English.

    I think it's great that you're trying it out. :D
     
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    the command line can take some getting used to. I'd learn how to navigate the filesystem using the command line (sudo, ls, cd, ..). Learn how to copy files, create directories, etc. It's not too difficult and will make the terminal a little more comfortable.
     
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    I was setting up the GUI for the FTP program and it said it could not be run. I googled it and came up with all sorts of results, but nothing specific to my program. I have no idea what I'm doing, so that really doesn't help matters either.

    Everything seemed to be working appropriately. I'm running an Intel Atom mobo, which I bet already has the drivers built for it because of all the netbooks running the Atom processor.

    I tried out 6.10 and I think that I'll try 6.04. Both 32 bit forms. Also, I refuse to do the server version because I really need a desktop to keep me sane.

    One small success I had...I was able to setup remote desktop and tightvnc and access it from my laptop in the house.
     
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    I got Hardy Heron installed on the mobo, but the NIC wasn't working. I did some research and I saw that someone else installed a PCI NIC and updated and the motherboard network card started working after the install. I hope this works...my attention deficit is starting to kick in on this project.
     
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    I've got a few NICs laying around. Hopefully one will work.

    Those forums are way over my head. I could learn, but it would push out Tacoma knowledge.
     
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    I need other things beyond the FTP and I'd like something that stays up forever, so I'll keep working on ubuntu for another week or so.

    I just joined over at ubuntu forums and listed phantom as a reference, I don't know if that was you or not...
     
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  20. Dec 9, 2008 at 7:34 AM
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    I was able to install a different network card and downloaded all the updates. I took out the card and the onboard network card started working!

    I got the FTP site installed, but I think I must have done something wrong because I couldn't access it through my LAN.

    The most important thing for me right now is setting up a way to access the files on the server from an XP and Vista machine over the LAN. It was to be as easy as clicking a link on the desktop in order to make my wife use it. Anyone have some ideas?
     
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