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shaking in the rear end at take off??

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Coad11811, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:02 AM
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    Hi everyone, I am new to the page and was looking for some feedback. I recently looked at a tacoma that I'm considering on buying, its a 2006 access cab sport edition with a leveling kit aftermarket wheels and tires. When I would take off from a stop it almost felt like the rear end was sliding or almost as if the wheels were rubbing or like the wheel bearing was out or something.. the guy said it started doing that once he put those wheels and tires on it and he can't figure out why either, I'm just curious as to if it may be a bigger issue or if it could honestly be the wheels and tires making it do that. any feedback would be greatly appreciated!! :)
     
  2. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 AM
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    DO NOT buy it w/o figuring out exactly what it is and how much it will cost to repair.

    Someone trying to sell something with an obvious flaw is a huge red flag, particularly when they feign ignorance of what it could be.

    It would also make me very suspect about the overall care of the rest of the truck.
     
  3. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:12 AM
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    Thats why I posted in here to see if I could get a general idea of what it may be and then I was going to ask him if I could take it for another test drive and have it checked out if I could get it narrowed down to what it may be.
     
  4. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:16 AM
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    It could just be take-off shudder / axle wrap that was amplified by the lift and bigger tires. And if a leveling kit was installed the U-bolts may need to be retorqued. Hard to tell from your description tho.
     
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    It sounds like axle wrap. Is the truck lifted at all? See if there are blocks in between the axle and the rear leaf springs.
     
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  6. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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    Here is a picture of it. The guy said that when he had street tire on it didn't do it, but it just feels like a vibration coming from the rear almost like that feeling of when your front tires are too big and they rub the fenders when you turn but in the ass end.. Once I get going around 10 15 miles an hour it stops.

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    How would I fix axle wrap if that's what it is?
     
  8. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:37 AM
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    if lifted with blocks rather than springs, then axle wrap...the larger than stock tires will exasperate the axle wrap....

    look underneath and see if there is a block between the spring and axle....also, with the bigger tires, more of a strain on the center support bearing, my truck did the shutter and had a vibration above 55 MPH with a bad bearing...

    btw, nice looking truck...
     
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  9. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:53 AM
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    A way to fix it cody would be to remove the blocks and replace them with an add a leaf for your lift or a set of bilstein adjustable shock absorbers. See i have The blocks on my axle but they're only 1". I dont feel a thing on my rear end.
     
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  10. Jul 10, 2016 at 11:53 AM
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    So basically axle wrap is caused by having the blocks and the bigger tires and isn't something I should be too concerned about? Fairly easy to fix if this is the issue?
     
  11. Jul 10, 2016 at 12:03 PM
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    The bigger tires shouldn't have anything to do with it. They just make it more noticeable. Axle wrap is not a good thing. At all. Thats something i would address very soon. Easy to fix in the sense of jack, jacl stands, impact tools, anywhere from 150 to 400 worth of parts (depending on which route you go) a full saturday, and an 18 pack of good beer... :)
     
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  12. Jul 10, 2016 at 3:39 PM
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    From your description of the problem, I get the sense that this is something you're not very familiar with - the dreaded drivability problems associated with a lifted Tacoma. If so, save yourself the headache and frustration and added expense of correcting the problem and find another Tacoma. There are hundreds of posts dealing with the diagnosis and "cures" associated with this problem. If you are not mechanically or technically inclined, you will not be a very happy camper and can end up spending a boat of load of dough having someone else fixing it for you.
     
  13. Jul 10, 2016 at 3:51 PM
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    fortunately, he has me. This is my cousin and i recommended him to here about diagnosing the possible problem with his potential new buy. As long as we can pinpoint the problem, im the mechanic ;) bought my tacoma bone stock and the above pictures are where its at now :D however another part of me agrees with you on just looking for another truck. Thats kinda why i bought stock.. That way if there is a problem with something, i know every little thing that has been done and of what quality. The downfall of doing it this way is the money you invest in your truck to get it where you want. Kind of one of those catch 22's. But if we can narrow down the problem (the hard part, which is why we're here) we're more than capable of fixing it. I havent seen the truck myself yet as we dont live too close, which is another reason i sent him here to see if anyone else has been through something similar.


    Sorry, had to show off the truck a bit. Pretty proud of it. Hehe :D
     
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    Im not the most mechanically inclined but im not dumb either I just haven't had this issue before or a lifted truck at that haha so I figured this would be a good place to start. Thanks everyone for the feedback I appreciate it!!!
     
  15. Jul 10, 2016 at 5:58 PM
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    Never had a problem till toyo did the frame replacement, toyo said drive shaft was bad or was rear.
    replaced both (not buy toyo) still did it.
    Turned out to be all I had to do was flip carrier bearing, cleared it up.
    Could be solution
    That's a sweat looking taco
     
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    I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but , without an understanding of what kind of lift is installed or a somewhat better technical explanation of the problem, you can't expect anything other than guesses at best, for a solution. You would be better to repost after you have a better understanding of what suspension changes you have and what the specific drivability issue is. Absent more detail, shot in the dark at best.
     
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    When i was about to drop the tranny (didnt end up doing it because of all the shit you have to remove to get to the top of the bolts on the bell housing under the hood.. Had limited time...) is when i realized toyota did a two piece drive shaft. I was actually pretty disappointed... I know they did it to accommodate the different frame sizes... Dcsb, dclb, scsb, sclb... Etc. It was to save money. Ive worked in manufacturing for the last almost 3 years for aerospace and nuclear fuels... When they can engineer something for multiple applications to save money, they will. Its a way of cutting corners. They should have engineered seperate drive shafts for different frame sizes. It would have eliminated lots of issues like more maintenance, drive shaft vibrations, etc... Kinda dissapoints cause i thought toyota was better than that. Ive wondered about a custom, single piece drive shaft.. Im sure it would be spendy... But when i win the lottery its definitely on my list lol. I need to do my carrier bearing soon too just cause I'd feel better about it if i did it. How much was it?
     
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    I completely agree. OP, i think you should definitely be asking more questions about what mods have been done. If he cant provide that info at least, move on to the next truck..
     
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    is when i realized toyota did a two piece drive shaft. I was actually pretty disappointed... I know they did it to accommodate the different frame sizes... Dcsb, dclb, scsb, sclb... Etc. It was to save money. Ive worked in manufacturing for the last almost 3 years for aerospace and nuclear fuels... When they can engineer something for multiple applications to save money, they will. Its a way of cutting corners. They should have engineered seperate drive shafts for different frame sizes. It would have eliminated lots of issues like more maintenance, drive shaft vibrations, etc... Kinda dissapoints cause i thought toyota was better than that.

    Accommodating different frames is only a small part of the two piece drvshft and it's not so much cost as it is drvshft angle, take a string and run it from the bottom of the pinion flange to the bottom of the transfer case flange, now step back and look at the angle of the string, if you were offroad would you want the drvshft dragging on everything with that angle.
     
  20. Jul 10, 2016 at 10:32 PM
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    There is a ton of offroad vehicles that operate with a single piece drive shaft all the time.... Jeeps for starters. All im saying is whether the angles are better or not, it seemed to cause more problems than it fixed. Id run a one piece shaft on my truck. Everything is only as good as its weakest link. And that's just one more weak spot on our tacos...
     

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