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shifting without clutch

Discussion in 'Toyota Trucks & SUVs' started by mrdinh, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:16 AM
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    mrdinh

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    was told that this can be done...save the money of replacing the clutch...i don't do this...any recommendation?
     
  2. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM
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    It can be done and will reduce wear on the clutch if done properly. If not done correctly, it'll wear on the clutch and synchros worse than using the clutch. As someone who's done it many times in 18-wheelers I can tell you I find it hard to do just right on my 4 cylinder Tacoma. I think it's due to the small engine.
     
  3. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM
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    Seriously just shift normally. Using your clutch normally isn't going to destroy it in 20 miles.
     
  4. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM
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    macgyver

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    Your clutch takes a lot more wear from taking off than it does from shifting gears...

    Can it be done? Sure...BUT WHY!?

    If you drive a manual transmission properly, your clutch should last a very long time.
     
  5. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM
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    I say just use the clutch its a lot cheaper to replace the clutch then rebuilding the gear box. If you want to shift with out a clutch buy an auto.
     
  6. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM
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    Even if you clutch wears out after 150k miles its a fun day project to replace and only sets you back a couple hundred bucks.. just use it
     
  7. Jan 14, 2011 at 10:42 AM
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    WTF????

    Syncro'd transmission, hydraulic clutch and you want to "play" 18-wheeler ???

    After 30 ( yes 30;) ) years of Toyotas, I have had 1 transmission noise (3rd gear sycros on our '81 Corolla SR5,wife would rest her arm on the "stick":rolleyes: while driving to work ) ; no clutch's or other tran's including teaching 2 teen-agers to drive since!!!!!

    My "Office" has always been an over-size pick-up made by Peterbilt or Mack and "shifting" can be an "art" or a bad dream.....just ask the shop foreman ;):p:cool:.....Proper shifting technique is an "old timers" dream and explains why so many companies now have automatics...including ours....my current "Office" has an Allison 6 speed ;)

    SORRY .RANT over, they gave you a clutch.try to use it....
     
  8. Jan 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM
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    Lift on upshifts and blip the throttle to match revs on downshifts. It's doable but not worth the risk unless you are racing on the track (where you can maintain constant 8/10th concentration on just driving).

    I actually haven't seen a manual 2nd gen. in person. Are the pedals spaced well for heel-and-toe?
     
  9. Jan 14, 2011 at 12:35 PM
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    Yep...I heel-toe downshift when I am slowing down/braking. It makes downshifting much smoother.

    I have always heel toed my vehicles so it has become habit.
     
  10. Jan 14, 2011 at 12:47 PM
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    blackhawke88

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    I heel toe in mine, but only with certain shoes, in my work shoes its like suicide.

    Heel toe in the taco sucks cuz of drive by wire, its more like heel and pray the throttle goes up like u want it. In my wrx I can get it perfect every time, throttle cable ftw
     
  11. Jan 14, 2011 at 12:53 PM
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    I used to do this all the time in an old S-10 I used to have...My clutch eventually went in that S-10 and knowing how to "air-shift" got me through the work week until I could rip the tranny out and do the clutch.

    Knowing how to do it won't kill you in the event that you ever need to. But like the guys are saying above, its not worth it. You can really fubar your trans if done wrong.
     
  12. Jan 20, 2011 at 7:50 PM
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    I did this from time to time in my 94. Don't think I'll be doing the same in my 2011.
     
  13. Jan 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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    what he said
     
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    I had a vw van (bus ) clutch cable broke on the way to work. I just pulled off to the side of the road and smoked a bunch of pot. Then when I wanted to go home I reved each gear really high and when the transmission meshed into another gear I shifted. it works.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2011 at 11:57 PM
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  16. Jan 22, 2011 at 7:30 AM
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    x2. I only put 2 clutches in my pre taco one at 50k and the other at 90k (it could have gone a lot longer though. The first blew on my dad when he had it.
     
  17. Jan 23, 2011 at 8:37 AM
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    I've had 2 Accords with 200,000+ miles, 85 Volvo w/145,000 and 94 yota truck with 116,000 and never had to replace a single clutch.
     
  18. Jan 23, 2011 at 8:53 AM
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    Well said!

    For you guys who heel/toe, did that recall where they reflash the ECU affect you being able to do that? Just curious, I've got an auto so all the recall did to me was make brake stands impossible and the skinny pedal a little shorter....
     
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