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Shocks for a heavily modded 05 lifted Tacoma? (lots mods)

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by billygoat, Sep 30, 2016.

  1. Oct 2, 2016 at 6:38 PM
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    Okay so here is the deal. I looked for you, but apparently IFP's in stem tops are not popular with Fox without reservoirs. If you want to avoid the one piece shock body/ stem top design (which has been known for breaking in the past) you will have to go for the 980-24-636 design ones. They are actually the same ones I have. 10" travel and all.

    Here is the stem top you don't want:

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    Here is the stem top you DO want (notice the black cap at the top):

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    I realize it will cost more, but you got some choices to make now. I hope this semi helps. As of right now, there are no other alternatives for you. Either one piece or two (actually 3 if you include the stem) piece design.
     
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  2. Oct 2, 2016 at 9:26 PM
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    Thanks for the help! I'll do some shopping around to see what I can find them for. I already ordered some of the GM bump stops--that really was a great tip. I'll admit this is getting more expensive than I had planned (I was looking at some replacement OME shocks originally), but that just seems to be how projects like these go. I'm planning to keep this truck indefinitely, so I have some budgeting and thinking to do.
     
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    No problem bud! I have done a lot of research on the Fox shocks for their 2.0 lineup especially for the rear end, so when it comes to anyone considering them, I like to make sure they know what's what and make sure they are aware of their choices and potential failure points.
     
  4. Nov 17, 2016 at 10:51 PM
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    I was looking at the 980-24-675 non res but they are listed as "fj" shocks so not sure if valving would be correct for my 2014. Wheelers, which seems to have there stuff together is the only site ive run across which has them listed '05+ tacoma 0-2" ' which should be close (i have icon progressive aal, tsb leaf + overload, allpro 1/2" flip and superbumps, 3/4" gapish). Looked like All Pro possibly had some 0-3" links with this model# for tacoma but they all seem to have been taken down so not sure if this is a good route to go. Have some extra cash but not resi cash (also didn't get reservoirs for front so wanted to keep it all in the family). Anyway longer winded than i wanted it to be but came across this while doing some research and you seemed to be pretty damn knowledgeable on the subject. Was looking at the 980-24-670 (1") but i think they would be too short but i do have nearly 400lbs in rear w/ shell so maybe im not as high as i think i am. Trying to understand what you meant by "good stems" they kinda looked the same to me or maybe im just too tired to understand right now thanks and sorry if you're reading this madness lol
     
  5. Nov 17, 2016 at 11:01 PM
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    I think you need some sleep. Then we can both regroup our thoughts come daylight tomorrow morning. Hahaha.

    One thing I will tell you, is that a shock is a shock. It doesn't matter what application they are intended for, as long as they fit. If they are rebuildable, then it's open game as long as you can find your correct fitment, because you can always get them revalved to your liking. In our case being stemtop to eyelet style for the rear.

    We will talk further about this in the morning.
     
  6. Nov 17, 2016 at 11:07 PM
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    Just about any shock that is not too long (i.e. short enough to not bottom out at full compression) is going to limit your down travel (so every shock that will work without requiring you to raise your bump stops will be too short). It's just part of the Tacoma's design, where they compromised down travel for better handling. The 980-24-675 would be a good length, but like 12TRDTacoma said, they have a weak stem design. The stem is steel and the shock body is aluminum. The body has a threaded hole that the stem screws into, and that right there is a terribly weak design. The aluminum has stripped out for some people, leaving their shock dangling and flapping in the wind until they can get a replacement. Some of the failures are probably due to over-tightening the stud/bushing nut, as this really increases the lateral stress on the stud (never over-torque shock studs!), but some of them probably aren't. I solved the problem by welding on eyelet-style upper shock mounts, but short of welding to the frame, the strongest FOX option is the steel-body factory series with a stronger mounting system for the stud to the shock body.
     
  7. Nov 17, 2016 at 11:22 PM
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    The stem breaking off the body is exactly what happened to my shock and I had to run shock less for a few days until I received my replacements. It was a real issue because Fox is slow at building their stuff. As for the mounting system they have on their 2nd revision steel body versions, it is not necessarily STRONGER per se. It is just like the rest of the design, modular, so if the stem breaks all you have to do is get a replacement stem for it, or if it breaks and you can remove the material from the top cap, just get a new stem and cap. Easy to do, with easily obtainable parts from places like Poly Performance, and doesn't require you have to get WHOLE NEW shocks like their previous one piece stem to shock body design.
     
  8. Nov 18, 2016 at 6:41 PM
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    Haha yea i did. Thanks for the response. Basically needed shocks asap and didn't have time to deal with any valving. Plus thats a subject im still pretty naive on. I was stressing that fox didn't have as many options as I expected non resi. Ended up just grabbing the 675's. The guy at poly said they might not be a right for my lighter tacoma but i have a shell and unfortunately this ended being a work truck so some weight in the bed. Also wheelerss sells em as 0-2" tacoma and they seem pretty knowledgeable so we shall see. Thanks again
     
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    That was a mistake.
     
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    Because of the stem issues or because of the valving
     
  11. Nov 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM
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    Just seeing this post thanks for the input. Sorry about the thread jack.
    Honestly still doing research. Just knew sunday would be the only time i could install for awhile and poly performance is right down the street so figured i could always return but I'd have em ready if they would possibly work
     
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    Oh hell yeah. There you go. Thats a great option also! I could help you with valving if you need it.
     
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    Appreciate it! Sometimes i feel like the grown ups are talking when people talk about valving lol. But want to learn more. Truck ended up carrying much more weight then i had hoped for (toolbox, tools also shell) but even though its a "work truck" i worked really hard to get it to where it is and trying to make it the best it can be for the weekend/ fun stuff. When someone like wheelers sells the fox 980-24-675's for a "05+ tacoma" does that mean they have revalved it for a Tacoma or basically that it will also work for that application? Im thinking the latter. He didnt quite answer that in the email but the guy at poly was cool telling me that they weren't valved for tacoma and to just get the 670's ect. Couldn't find factory series anywhere. Anyway rambling again really appreciate it @12TRDTacoma. Have a good weekend
     
  14. Nov 28, 2016 at 5:34 PM
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    @12TRDTacoma had a quick question for ya if you get a chance. Decent deal on some fox #985-26-116 for another couple of hours. Piggy back type with cd's. was it the factory series that you were recommending vs the performance right? Trying to figure out the difference exactly. These are factory ones. thank you either way
     
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    Factory over Performance series ALL DAY. Show me a picture of those shocks because they look like dual eyelet designs instead of stem to eyelet like our shock towers are designed.
     
  16. Nov 28, 2016 at 7:33 PM
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    It looks like a typical stock image of resi performance series shock but is listed as "factory series" so the photo wouldn't be any help. Its from 4wheelparts and haven't gotten response back from them. Sale ends at 12 so who knows. Thanks for the response. Was googling with no luck. Not sure how dual eyelet would be helpful. Guessing you probably dont have stock shock towers
     
  17. Nov 28, 2016 at 7:48 PM
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    Believe it or not I actually still do run stock shock towers. It appears what you are looking at would be dual eyelet design. JUST KNOW that if you get that you will have to run a stem to eyelet adapter, and by running that you would lose some travel. Probably about 1". I would go with a shock that is essentially a "bolt on" for this truck, as with 10" of travel on a basically stock setup you need all of that travel.
     
  18. Nov 28, 2016 at 8:42 PM
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    Ok gotcha @12TRDTacoma . I think they are performance series just mislabeled but not 100% sure. Definitely looking for a stem top type shock not trying to run an adapter. Was thinking 'factory" was stem as well and had discounts for both kinds (if these were actually factory) at 2 different shops. Thanks again
     
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