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Should I get the rear suspension TSB?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by DubVeeTaco, May 25, 2010.

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Should I have the suspension TSB performed?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2010.
  1. 5100's and TSB now

    29 vote(s)
    61.7%
  2. TSB and no 5100's

    9 vote(s)
    19.1%
  3. TSB/5100's before the end of 3 years/36,000

    7 vote(s)
    14.9%
  4. No TSB, and AAL/lift in the future if I feel like it

    2 vote(s)
    4.3%
  1. May 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM
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    DubVeeTaco

    DubVeeTaco [OP] Well-Known Member

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    At the risk of beating a dead horse, (I have read all of the TSB threads) I thought I'd post a poll about my truck.

    I have a 2010 Access Cab Off Road Tacoma, running 265/75 16's. The dealer has pre-approved me for the rear suspension TSB, but I'm wondering if I should get it done now, wait until the end of the 3 year/36,000 mile warranty period, or not get it done at all.

    I don't do a lot of towing/hauling, but I would like to have the capability to do so in the future. I also like the height and rake of my truck as it sits now.

    I'm thinking that I'm going to need 5100's up front to compensate for the increased rake that the TSB will cause, (especially since I have an access cab). So, what should I do? 5100's and TSB now? TSB and no 5100's? TSB/5100's before the end of 3 years/36,000? No TSB, and AAL/lift in the future if I feel like it?
     
  2. May 25, 2010 at 9:54 AM
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    DBZ 2010

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    Hey,
    its really up to you. If you got the money for the 5100 then go for it. Plus if your dealer already approved you thats great, cause alot of members out there had to fight it out with their dealers to get it.
     
  3. May 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM
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    gupster88

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    what do you want to do? if you want it then go for it, its a free rear lift. but you will need to add 5100's and set them at .85" at least to maintain the rake you have now.
     
  4. May 26, 2010 at 6:48 AM
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    pudge151

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    i have an 08 DC that i just did 5100's and the TSB on, i LOVE IT !!!! it rides great, not really stiff at all, barely noticeable from stock. i set the fronts at .85 and she sits just like stock. i have bottomed out a few times with mine and thats why i didnt it now, i have 17k on my truck. if you are not having problems than just wait a couple years, if not just go for itnow. you wont be dissapointed.
     
  5. May 26, 2010 at 8:06 AM
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    DubVeeTaco

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    Thanks for all the input, guys! I just ordered the 5100's - can't wait to get them on when the TSB is done.

    Now, the only decision is where to set them at - 0.85 or 1.75 :rolleyes:

    I'm leaning towards 1.75..thinking I'll gain about an inch in the rear from the TSB, and still maintain a slight rake at that setting. (Right now, I'm measuring 37'' in the rear and 35'' in the front, at the rear corner of the fenderwells.)

    TW rocks!!
     
  6. May 26, 2010 at 10:10 AM
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    sounds good man. 1.75" should set you about level height, maybe a little rake but not as much as you have now. .85" will give you factory rake usually.

    i see you are from mo-town. i assume you are a mountaineer fan???:D
     
  7. May 26, 2010 at 10:26 AM
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    I had the TSB done on my '09 access cab, and didnt do any any other modifications to the suspension.
    I liked the way it rode, and the leafsprings settled a bit.
    If you want to level it, try .85 at first and see how much the springs settle.
    i like having a rake.
    on my '10 access cab, I have OME springs and shocks on the front, and a 2" Toytec AAL and have a factory rake, but truck sits about 2" higher.
     
  8. May 26, 2010 at 10:28 AM
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    Bed Mat, WV Hitch Cover, 265/75 R16 Cooper Discoverer ATR's, XM, Rear leaf TSB, front 5100's at 1.75..
    Yeah, I was considering 0.85'', but I'm thinking that with the 75 series tires, it would look better with a slightly higher lift in the front..plus, I have an access cab, which may sit a bit higher in the rear than a four door post-TSB (less weight). At least I still some time to decide, and search TW for pix of both!

    Love the Mounties!! You really can't beat living in Morgantown...and football season's right around the corner:woot:
     
  9. May 26, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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    if they already said they will do it, then go get it done now.
     
  10. May 26, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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    Bed Mat, WV Hitch Cover, 265/75 R16 Cooper Discoverer ATR's, XM, Rear leaf TSB, front 5100's at 1.75..
    Good advice, Outlaw. Do you have any pix, by chance, of the '09 post-TSB?

    Thanks!
     
  11. May 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM
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    I think so , let me dig for them.
    Rt side TSB.jpg

    Driver side TSB.jpg

    TSB AAL Drive Side 002.jpg

    TSB AAL Pass Side001.jpg

    SPORTY, STREET GLIDE AND TACOMA 008.jpg

    SPORTY, STREET GLIDE AND TACOMA 009.jpg
     
  12. May 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM
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    Outlaw - thanks for the pix!!

    After seeing these, I'm glad I ordered the 5100's. I like a little rake too, but not quite that much. It's all a matter of personal preference though. Great looking ride!
     
  13. May 26, 2010 at 11:38 AM
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    I miss it, but Im even happier with my new truck. I learned a lot from owning the '09 , so knew exactly what I wanted to do with the truck.
    Only thing that came unexpectedly was the need for new UCAs after lifting with the OME front suspension.
     
  14. May 26, 2010 at 11:39 AM
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    if you get it done and go with .85 in the front it will sit the same at stock. if you go 1.75 you may get a lean to the back (front high) IMO this looks terrible and when and if you tow somethingyour lights will be up in the skyu. .85 retains the stock look and ride. 1.75 may bea rougher ride.

    measurements for you

    before after
    drv fr- 34.5 35.5
    pass fr 35 36
    drv rear 36 37
    pass rear 36 37

    P5260129.jpg
    P5260130.jpg
    P5260131.jpg
     
  15. May 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM
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    yeah morgantown is the place to live if you are a mountaineer maniac. looking forward to football, kinda anxious to see how good we are this year. seems like basketball is becoming THE sport now though :D
     
  16. May 26, 2010 at 1:49 PM
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    Pudge151 - great advice, pix and measurements. Thanks!

    I definitely don't want the "backwards lean", and I don't want the lights to hit the sky when towing/hauling. Seeing your truck at 0.85 makes me want mine just like that. I'm also not really wanting a "lifted" look, and the extra inch ro so from the 5100's at that setting and the TSB should be just the ticket...oh yeah, and the extra inch from the 75 series tires :p

    Did you put 5100's on the rear as well? I'm hoping that I won't regret just ordering the fronts in an effort to save $... (My thought is that I wouldn't be able to tell much difference in the ride quality w the stock Billy's vs. the 5100's in the rear.)
     
  17. May 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM
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    Yeah, I'm not ready for UCA's yet -- they seem to be a "must have" when you go with a true 3'' lift. Glad you like the new ride...
     
  18. May 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM
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    ... or even 2 " of lift are almost a must have. I probably would be fine without them as my alignment was within spec, but I want better than within spec.
    Also, i did get Billstein 5100s for the rear to go with my AAL, and am happy with the ride. i dont know, with just the TSB AAL, if it would make a big difference with stock shocks. Probably wouldnt notice it much.
     
  19. May 26, 2010 at 3:44 PM
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    i did get all 4 billi 5100's but its not needed. its just preference. they do ride better but i dont thinks its a huge difference
     
  20. May 26, 2010 at 4:12 PM
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    i got the tsb and love it. i paid the dealer an extra 200 bucks and i supplied the 5100's i bought from downsouth motorsports. they installed the shocks and set them at 1.75. its level if you look at it but if i measure it than the rear is about 1 inch higher. set at .85 if you want factory rake. it was a huge pain in the ass to get my dealership to do it sot if you already have it worked i say go for it you will be pleased
     

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