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Should i trade 4Runner for Tacoma

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Jdhermit, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Jun 13, 2019 at 2:52 PM
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    La_FIama_BIanca

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    3rd gen owners are drama queens
     
  2. Jun 13, 2019 at 2:57 PM
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    Not sure where OP lives, but as for the Canadian market the 4Runner is a bit more expensive. I don't know if it's due to the Taco being manufactured in North America and the T4R abroad, but a TRDOR Taco is $40-42k. A SR5 T4R is $45k, and a TRDOR T4R $46-47k.

    Chances are OP doesn't have to deal with any of that but the Canadian TRDOR T4Rs all come with KDSS standard (while American TRDORs only have it on the Premium trim), which gives a better on-road ride and allegedly marginally better articulation off-road, but at the cost of the vehicle leaning noticeably when lifted in any way, being incompatible with the TRD skid plate, and [arguably] slightly less reliable down the road.

    Also, @Jdhermit if you think fishtailing in the T4R is bad, welcome to pickup trucks of all shapes and sizes. If those are indeed the alarming driving conditions you're faced with, and you're not receptive to driving with 200-300lbs of sand in the bed permanently, you're in for a wild ride driving any truck. Good tires and defensive driving go a long way, and quite honestly, the T4R's curb weight, handling and construction more or less make it a truck for handling purposes.
     
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  3. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:10 PM
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    The only point I disagree with, is that although the 4-link rear suspension makes the 4Runner articulate very well, going slow in gnarly off road conditions, it’s squirrelly as hell everywhere else.

    I’ve spent hours (days actually) in convoys following both 4Runners and Tacomas on logging roads. 4Runners hitting potholes at speed is scary for everyone. Tacoma’s hitting potholes, no problem. After a couple days, the 4Runners fall to the back of the pack as the drivers cannot white-knuckle the speeds the Taco drivers can. Same reason you don’t see a lot of guys jumping 4Runners.

    Again......the 4Runner is a great SUV, but it’s got its share of negatives when compared to a leaf-sprung pickup truck of any sort in terms of straight-line tracking during unexpected maneuvers.
     
  4. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:14 PM
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    Take it back!
     
  5. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:19 PM
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  6. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:31 PM
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    Its actually the opposite, ever driven a new 4runner?? The nose dive is notorious. Tacoma with its longer wheel base doesn't dive nearly as much.

    Plus the Tacoma actually outbrakes the 4Runner even with its drum rears.
     
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  7. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:34 PM
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    I've said this before and got flammed hard lol. Which is silly because I've owned multiple tacomas AND 4runners and love both.

    But 4runners are way more tippy, I know from experience I flipped one SIX times down the side of a mountain.

    Tacomas flex more having the bed seperate from the cab and with the longer wheel base and lower center of gravity they're a LOT more stable doing desert running.

    I still always say though if I din't use my bed I'd still be in a 4Runner and will likely have my girlfriend buy one so we can have both :)
     
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  8. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:34 PM
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    I've owned jeeps and Chevys, and a few 3rd gen tacomas... Not a single problem with any of my tacomas... No transmission issues. No mechanical or driving issues. No issues at all. Except leaf springs squeaky after lots of mudding. But the dealership installed silencers for free and stopped the squeak.

    Some people are just really unlucky or expect a truck to drive like a car... I remember why i stopped looking through this forum... So many people complaining and even after switching vehicles they have nothing better to do with their lives but come complain on everyone else's post.

    If you have a problem with your truck take it to the dealership. If they don't remedy the problem tell them you'll be calling corporate and try another dealership. If that doesn't work call corporate offices. If you bought the truck and it drove like that from day 1 that's your fault. If it started having problems later that's what warranties are for. If you started hating the vehicle after buying it then be a man, suck it up, and trade it in. Then move on with your life.

    It's like middle school in here.
     
  9. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:36 PM
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    Do you mean the side-to-side jiggle due to the panhard bar? I've heard a LOT of complaints on the 4th gen Ram, but on SUVs like the Tahoe and T4R I don't notice it at all, just that coils ride better than leafs.

    I interpreted OP's statement as more of a traction problem in adverse weather conditions. Something I would imagine the T4R as having a slight advantage as it at least puts some weight over the rear, unloaded.

    Perhaps the terrible ride quality of a RCSB has just skewed my perception of ride quality. When it comes to jumping, I wouldn't really subject anything other than a Raptor to it lol.
     
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  10. Jun 13, 2019 at 3:57 PM
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    What does nose dive have to do with fishtailing?

    The 5th gen 4Runner nose dive was no different to me than that I’ve experienced in my tacoma or what people have described with FJs.
     
  11. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:00 PM
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    Bro just google it, almost every review of the 4runner mentions it and 4runner forums are FILLED with discussions about it.

    Google "tacoma nose dive" and a 4runner thread pops up lol.

    I get it you like the 4runner but its silly to pretend it doesn't have its own cons.
     
  12. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:02 PM
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    Dealership gave me a 4Runner to drive while they did the diff replacement on my Tacoma. Couldn’t wait to get my truck back.
     
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  13. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:06 PM
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    Keep the 4Runner but trade up if you really want that little bit of extra off road capability. You'll be more comfortable in the T4R unless your behind fits perfectly in the Tacoma's seats and your legs and torso are perfectly shaped for it, lol
     
  14. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:23 PM
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    I’m just going to stop you there because your reading comprehension clearly isn’t there. Fishtailing is NOT the same thing as nosedive unless your definition of nosedive means losing rear end traction. I don’t need to google anything “bro”. I’ve put 300 miles on a 5th gen, enough to know the road feel is bland and plenty enough to get the nose dive you keep droning on about. Nose dive is from the soft stock suspension Toyota puts on these vehicles. Even my 2nd gen Tacoma with stock suspension had nose dive.
     
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  15. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:45 PM
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    Probably would also aid the discussion if there was some clarification as to the trim and suspension setup amongst the users who are saying the 4R has serious nosediving or body roll problems. A pair of SR5 no-name shocks is going to support that front end differently from the Bilstein 4600s on the TRDOR, the TRD Pro Bilsteins, or the Fox 2.5s(?) on the TRD Pro. The SR5 and TRD Pro sway bars are likewise going to mitigate body roll very differently from the massive KDSS sway bar.

    The Taco feels pretty good on the road, like most midsize trucks do. It's rather squat, even compared to the Collie/Canyon. The T4R fits the curb weight of a large mid-size or short full-size pickup into a wheelbase shorter than both, while sitting relatively high. It's not going to take corners like a X3.
     
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  16. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:46 PM
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    Completely agree.
     
  17. Jun 13, 2019 at 5:13 PM
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    Not that it proves anything (it doesn’t), but holy shit are these entertaining to watch. Also......before the saintly types start commenting......the driver is killed dead in ever vid.....be forewarned. Body parts everywhere.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WjhNnEL26Vs

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Anbn3OYZ0I

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyAvBYBqW8

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Mt1kn3rVk

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1_pPnB5d4

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJkEV9YjQk

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svATnW858MA

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3X-bQUDJrDE
     
  18. Jun 13, 2019 at 5:17 PM
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    Lol damn I was in my friends 4runner a long time ago and it felt like we were going to roll i quickly jumped to the other side of the suv so we wouldn't. Didn't know it was a real problem with them
     
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    Those 3rd gens are definitely something.

    As for the narrow overlap, I can honestly understand why. The test only came out around 2014, which pretty much shafts earlier designs like the 5th gen. The 13th gen F-150 came out just in time to take advantage of the new test, earning it TSP. Likewise with the 3rd gen Taco. The 4R joins most other cars/trucks in not doing particularly well in narrow overlap.

    I'm surprised the 3rd gen Taco didn't earn TSP like the F-150, having done well in all the tests. The standout disgrace are the Collies/Canyons, which came out in 2015 like the F-150, yet still couldn't ace the tests, with the extended cab which is what I had disappointing in both side and small overlap.
     
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