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Yeah, I'm familiar with the safety function on 1911's.
I guess I'm just confused now, though.

Gun was loaded and a round was chambered but the hammer wasn't back?
The gun was holstered but the safety wasn't on?

I'm just trying to make it gel in my head how you somehow had a loaded & chambered un-safetied gun in a holster with the hammer down.
Unless the hammer was at half-cock?

 

so you manually pulled the hammer back with a chambered round while it was holstered? ballsy.

 

Wait. You put the hammer down!? Dude! That's the BIG NO NO of 1911s... You don't ever put the hammer down...

 

Not sure if ballsy is the word I would use.

 

And this is why series 80 exists...

 

What is series 80? Not overly familiar with 1911's......yet.

 

I loaded the gun including putting one in the chamber and let the hammer down manually. I then put my holster on & put the gun in the holster.

Then I pulled the hammer back, it clicked, & then immediately fell. I didn't have time to put the thumb safety on.

I always carry 1911s w/ one in the chamber, hammer cocked, and thumb safety engaged.

I know how to handle a gun & a 1911. It simple failed. We got home from the hospital w/ the sheriff and examined the gun. The hammer would stay back 2-3 times & then fall on the next.

There is an obvious defect in the gun.

 

Glad you're okay for the most part. Haven't heard of this issue with any of the Armscor lines, but Ivan (owner) is a good guy and will be very interested to hear of a safety issue.

I'd second what Ryan said, and Armscor should be the one receiving the handgun for diagnosis, not a gunsmith.

 

Agreed

 

I agree.. I will contact them after New Years.

 

Series 80 have firing pin safety. It's a plunger that stops forward movement of the firing pin until you pull the trigger.

 

I agree.. I let the hammer down & laid the gun on the table to gather the rest of my hunting stuff. Then got ready to leave & had the accident.

 

Okay.. And for jokes..

Anyone got any revolvers for sale?

Hahahaha.. Accidents happen. I'm fine. The gun will get fixed or replaced. Though it will probably turn into a range gun & my snubby will have to take up concealed duty

 

Respectfully.. you've had time to post here about your pistol being faulty and Armscor's manufacturing/lack of QC has caused you to take a bullet to the leg, without actual evidence of there being a mechanical issue.

I'd take 6 minutes and send Ivan an email and let him be aware of the situation and let him contact you.

Ivan is a fantastic guy, and there are few owners of firearms companies who have their personal contact info readily found on the internet. He's a good man, he won't bite. Give him 50% of the time and effort you've given to this forum posting about your experience.

ivan@armscor.net
1-775-537-1444

 

With respect, the above statements do not mesh.
Leaving a loaded & chambered 1911 with the hammer down is extremely unsafe. Handling and holstering it in that condition is also extremely unsafe.

Regardless of the condition/functionality of the pistol, allowing the hammer to rest on the firing pin with a round chambered with ANY 1911 is asking for an accidental discharge.

I'm very glad for you that nobody was more seriously injured. However, in the future do NOT rest the hammer in a down position with a round chambered (not that you would be likely to after what just happened anyway, of course)

Good luck with your recovery, and good luck with Armscor on getting any issues the gun may have addressed.

 

I'll sell you my smith 940-1 $975. Mint condition...

Do you let the hammer down a lot? On 1911 with MIM parts manually letting down the hammer wears out the sear or hammer. Sometimes causing failure. Reason why people replaces the MIM parts.

 

Not sure that is limited to MIM parts.

 

I agree.

Not trying to bash RIA 1911s in any way. I've owned two and both have been fantastic. There's just something wrong with this one. I'm not bitter.

The police just said we should go to a certified gunsmith then to the company. So my family has a tendency to listen to them instead of people on a Toyota forum. (No offence)

 

True. It also happens on machines parts as well.

This is why I get pissed when people manually let down the hammer on my 1911s.
Just pull the damn trigger and dry fire the thing!

 

Idk if it had to do with MIM parts, but it's a possibility.

My recovery is more important than the gun at this point. We will contact Armscor soon