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Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by bauermike, May 28, 2008.

  1. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM
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    Dwill817

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    I actually did not know manually releasing the hammer caused a problem. Never heard of that.

    It's a regular thing with 30-30s and such, so I guess I just carried it over.
     
  2. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:12 PM
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    :facepalm:

    You came to a Toyota forum, not the other way around. Regardless of what your local LEO advises, you should contact the manufacturer, or better yet, the owner of the company whose contact info I've given you in my last post. If they want it examined by another gunsmith before receiving it for examination on their end, they'll tell you to. If not, they'll want you to send it straight to them. Your concept of how this should be handled is off base.

    You should be contacting Armscor first, THEN when a diagnosis is given as to a faulty mechanical condition of your pistol you'll be neck deep in discussion regarding their liability in fault. Instead, you posted on a Toyota forum that you shot yourself in the leg because your Armscor 1911 is "obviously faulty." Then you discuss your plan to get paid before you've even figured out if your claim is true or if you're spreading BS on the internet. The only facts are you shot yourself in the leg and the bullet was fired from an Armscor 1911. After that, until the pistol is examined, it's unclear.

    If you want to follow the advice of law enforcement, go ahead. But you need to examine your handling of things and get it in order first, then discuss information and not your best guess. Follow the proper protocol and keep people in the loop as it progresses, but you're here airing laundry and you're not even willing to contact the manufacturer until next week? Give me a break, if I judged you on this behavior alone I'd just as easily believe you shot yourself on accident and had a negligent discharge since your posts about this situation only show further negligence.
     
  4. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:17 PM
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    C40332C8-1994-426B-B14C-932CD1F0339F_c1b11de1181db7495a42c5508583cc7ab7e48c4b.jpg

    You can see the entry and exit. Sorry it's blurry.

    8E5EF6C8-13FB-4FAB-87D0-0EBCD9DDF920_323a85c1611045e75f93ce09d7516b38e9ef9abb.jpg
     
  5. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:25 PM
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    Looks like the critical defense did what it's designed to do. Expand on entry.
     
  6. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:28 PM
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    ANdre did you get a replacement muzzle break?
     
  7. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:28 PM
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    Well since he made this issue public, I've contacted Ivan myself. Expect to hear from him Dwill.
     
  8. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    ^^^

     
  9. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM
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    that seems correct.
    image.jpg
     
  10. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM
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    Working on it.. Well Aaron is... Lol
     
  11. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM
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    No. It has no energy to transfer.. It transfered all of its energy at the beginning.
     
  12. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:35 PM
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    Well. Not really. It expands and stays together. It just has no more energy to transfer to the flesh.

    All hollow points do this. Also 14" in ballistic gel is not 14" in flesh. It's more like 8-9" in flesh.
     
  13. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM
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    It's not the first time if have heard of a rock island malfunctioning, I got to mess with one that the trip safety wouldn't work. It was really wild, I love the 1911 platform and being able to pull the trigger without the grip safety pressed was.....different. That particular gun is on its way back to the manufacturer. And I was able to mess with it in a shop unloaded and clear multiple times by both of us and kept pointed in a safe direction
     
  14. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM
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    Came to a Toyota forum to say be careful and accidents can happen. Not to have some political discussion on the process of dealing with this situation. We are doing as law enforcement instructed us.

    Not looking for compensation for time lost from work or anything like that. I would however like to return the gun and get my money back & don't think that is an unfair. I would never ever sue for millions or something ludicrous. And I will add, if it's turns out to not be a manufacturers defect, then I'll swallow the $500, lock the gun up, and move on.

    It's impossible for you to make a judgement on our process of handling the situation or the condition of the firearm based off of the situation I've presented you. There is an obvious fault in the gun. The sheriff would rack the slide and the hammer will fall. That is a mechanical failure of some sort. Beyond that, I don't have the skills to diagnose it.

    As I had previously said, not bashing Armscor for a faulty product. IT HAPPENS! Anything mechanic is bound to fail. It just so happened to be a a bad time. Not airing dirty laundry against Armscor & they will be contacted in a civil manner. Not with threats. Mearly with concern.

    We may or may not contact Armscor first. Our first priority was dealing with my injury then dealing with anything else. So there is still time.

    If the gun was properly working, I would chalk it up as my fault (it partially is anyways) and move on. But something is wrong, and I don't feel like the firearm is safe to handle and there is NO WAY I would sell it to someone else.
     
  15. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM
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    Nothing political about it.

    Regardless, Ivan is aware of the situation. Consider refraining from speculation until the situation is handled appropriately (as it hasn't been so far).

    Best of luck.
     
  16. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM
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    That is not your place & in my opinion out of line.

    Our #1 priority is getting through the medical process of a gunshot wound.

    Not worrying about the firearm. It will be dealt with as we feel necessary.
     
  17. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM
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    And I see now that I shouldn't have. I wasn't trying to start a war.

    I literally posted to say BE CAREFUL!
     
  18. Dec 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM
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    Gee, thanks Beavis.
    Now I've got to go home and check mine for proper function AGAIN!
    I'd best run a few mags through it this weekend just to be extra certain :D
     
  19. Dec 30, 2014 at 2:13 PM
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    Bevis That sucks. Is the extractor on it external?
     
  20. Dec 30, 2014 at 2:21 PM
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    As it should be. You can remind others to be safe and cautious in handling firearms and tell a story of how you shot yourself, and you can do all of that without discussing details that shouldn't be public fodder.

    You did anyway, so I let Ivan know of your posts here as it's public information. Sorry you disapprove.
     
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