Show us what you tow.

I think he was a douchebag.

 

Pulling a 72" Hustler Diesel, halla

 

I can't believe you tow so much!!! Did you beef up your springs? If so how, my truck is wimpy!!!!

 

I'm adding some Ride Rite air bags tomorrow... working on making this Tacoma a Towcoma.

 

weight distribution. If that thing sits at the right spot (far enough back), it could add NO weight to the hitch, or even pull UP. Not that you'd want either, but just saying.

 

Won't happen. The payload is just too low. Air bags don't increase your payload.

 

Obvisiously it won't be a 1 ton; but I can make the truck act like a real truck when it is hooked up to a trailer. I refuse to drive a truck that looks like a dog dragging it's ass across the carpet when the truck is hooked up to a trailer.

I have been told about a Tacoma in my home town that has a gooseneck hitch in it now. The owner pulls a flatbed gooseneck and loads it with round hay bales. While I have not seen this... trust me; as soon as I do see it I am taking some pics to post.

 

Yeah, but again, the gooseneck itself does not mean much. If he loads it "right", there may be under a hundred pounds on that pin. Our engine actually does a great job. I do believe it can tow the 6,500 lbs. The limiter is the payload. If that guy in your town loads it right, he may even be within the limits. The air bags are just not the cure by themselves. You really need to educate yourself on the issue (I think you are doing just that). Thumbs up for that, as most people have no clue, LOL!

 

I don't care how you load a gooseneck flatbed; especially with round hay bales that average 800 lbs each, there is no way that tongue is putting around 100 lbs of weight in his truck. I grew up on a farm where we pulled around heavy equipment and hay all the time. I have seen some trailers that were loaded pretty damn perfect and they still took up some leaf travel in the truck. The more I go back and read your posts the more I question your judgement. To think that having no weight on the tongue is a good thing is wrong. Thinking that your limit is when your truck begins to sag is wrong. I think you are wrong.

 

Ok. You did learn one thing: there needs to be weight on the tongue to make the rig stable. Now go back and do the needed calculations. It is all in the posts!

 

"It is all in posts" sounds and looks like a bs answer. Your story on tongue weight has changed; what's next?

 

No, tx, it has not really changed. It needs to be balanced just right, that's the trick.

 

Please explain: how do you "balance" a flatbed gooseneck loaded down with ~800lbs round bales of hay?

A) Stack them all on top of each other on the tail of the trailer.

B) You're full of shit and are grabbing for "answers".

C) By the way a gooseneck trailer is built, it just isn't possible.

For those of you on the sidelines and watching this; I'll include a picture of a gooseneck trailer.



So perfectly balanced loaded down with hay that it has less than 100 lbs weight on the tongue... really?



It looks like he has that truck loaded pretty close to about right, and yet that 3/4 or 1 ton truck is still squatting still. Maybe you could give them some pointers on how to load that trailer right so as that truck has to carry little/no weight.

(for the record: I've seen this rig in person... it is badass! It is like an off road limo. An LS1 motor, front and rear hydraulic steering, and everything but a wet bar. It is awsome. The guy that owns it really knows his shit.)



Another common flatbed gooseneck trailer just for reference.



This trailer isn't finished being loaded with hay; but you should be able to get the idea.





Ok, anything else you would like to bless us with?

 

If you load a trailer with the weight in the rear it can pull up on the truck. If that happens it can cause the rear tires to loose traction and that equals disaster.
My friend had this happen while towing an 8000 skid steer with a 3/4 chevy. The skid steer was loaded too far back is the reason it happened.

Here is a pic of my most recent towing experience. I am pretty sure the box on the front along with the trailer battery and winch put me a little over the tounge weight limit.

 

So Tex, you're saying you have a real world experience that says having weight in the bed of the truck is a good thing? Like it is supposed to be done that way?



Hmmm... interesting concept this "traction" and "control". Sounds like "gravity"; looks good on paper but completly unprovable.

 

That is what I am saying. Due to the skid steer being too far back on the trailer there was not enough tounge weight and when a slight dip was hit getting onto the highway the back tires of the truck were pulled up too far. This caused him to loose control and jack knifed the trailer. Caused $5k or so in damage to truck and trailer. It could have been much worse if someone would have been injured.

 

Interesting. Maybe we should take another look at how much of weight we should load onto our truck with each type of trailer again.

TYPE OF TRAILER
PERCENT OF WT. ON TONGUE
Single Axle________________10% minimum/15% maximum
Tandem Axle_______________9% to 15%
Travel Trailer______________11% to 12%
5th Wheel_________________15% to 25%


Source: Sherline.com



So with these numbers, if we were to load 100 lbs of a 5th wheel (gooseneck) trailer on the truck then the trailer and load should weigh no more then 400 lbs? Really? lmao

 

You are getting closer, tx.

 

And you're still lacking.