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Sick of paying for PA emissions testing...

Discussion in 'North East' started by PennSilverTaco, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:13 PM
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    PennSilverTaco

    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    So, my dad's Pathfinder had a license plate frame that said "FLY NAVY NAVAL AVIATION" on the back. It also had numerous Navy stickers in the back window. If that wasn't enough, it also had a valid Department of Defense sticker in the windshield!

    Even a rookie cop should have been able to quickly figure out that this Pathfinder belonged to someone in the United States Navy!

    Neither of us had been happy about getting pulled over, but we had both been calm and civil the whole time.

    The cop comes back with our papers and says we are free to go, but as he's handing them back, proceeds to lecture my dad about it is required to register your vehicle in Pennsylvania within a month of establishing residency. The veins in my dad's neck started to show, and I thought he was about to lose it with the cop.

    He keeps his cool, but in a tone that made it obvious he was pissed off, he tells the cop he is in the Navy and not required to register his vehicle in the state. He then shows the cop his military ID as proof, the cop apologizes, and we leave.

    Within a month of that incident, my dad registered the Pathfinder and the van in PA because he thought the Virginia plates attracted unwanted attention from police...
     
  2. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:16 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    I never said I'd move to Virginia or register my truck there. One thing I honestly love about PA is that they are a one-plate state!
     
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  3. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:21 PM
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    Philly has some weird municipal laws...
     
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  4. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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    Jeesh, just pay your fair share just like all your neighbors. Don't like your local or state tax issues? Get involved and try to change things. How would you like it if everyone in PA found some loophole so that they wouldn't have to pay taxes for schools, or roads, or fire, or police, or the myriad other things that you benefit from either directly or indirectly? Or, just move your ass to Maine and enjoy the underfunded schools, the high unemployment, the rampant alcoholism and other issues that stem from a state with a historic preference for low taxes, a "love free or die" mentality, and minimal social services.

    You're talking about breaking laws and cheating the system to save what, $100 a year? Meanwhile you're exposing yourself to SO MUCH potential headaches if you get in an accident, hurt someone, your insurance finds out and drops you, etc. And those annual inspections and drunk driving checkpoints that are so inconvenient to you are there to save lives. Thank the cops for risking THEIR lives for YOU, standing out there on dark roads at night.
     
  5. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    Which is why I'd keep the Tacoma registered at my parents' house if I ever had to move there...

    What I mean by One-Plate State is that PA only requires a rear license plate. No pointless second license plate cluttering up my front end!
     
  6. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:27 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    I'm probably not gonna do it...

    I'm just thinking out loud here...

    Also, I vote for people who share my beliefs and nothing really changes...
     
  7. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:30 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    I don't have a problem with school taxes, road taxes, and property taxes. Those benefit everybody...

    My local school district (Central Bucks) is among the best in the country! I think those taxes are a very good thing...

    As an occasional angler, I also agree wholeheartedly with fishing licenses because the fees keep the public lakes and rivers maintained...

    I also somewhat agree with DUI laws, and I'm primarily annoyed at the inconvenience they cause...
     
  8. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:32 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    LOL, you mean Live Free or Die, and that's Maine's neighbor, New Hampshire...

    :D
     
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  9. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:34 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    Tell me how paying a mechanic $60 to inspect my truck and tell me what I already know (that it's in perfect condition) benefits me...

    Tell me how not being to buy a 6-pack of my favorite beer at a gas station, or a bottle of wine at a Wal Mart, benefits me...
     
  10. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:37 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    As both an employee at a bar and a beer enthusiast, I believe that the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board sucks royal ass!

    Getting back on topic, you guys all
    make excellent points, and I knew deep down that I probably would not transfer registration of my Tacoma outside of Pennsylvania unless I actually move. I just wanted some different opinions...

    People of TW, you are awesome!
     
  11. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:50 PM
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    I had to snowblow 12" on Christmas and 14" last week. It's been below 0 since Christmas. Trade island life for that and you too, can have slightly cheaper registration!
     
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  12. Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM
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    PennSilverTaco [OP] I have Ass Burgers...

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    One guy I met only registered his hot-rodded '93 Chevy S-10 in Maine because it wouldn't pass emissions and was too new to qualify for antique tags...

    Also, many other states do just fine without property taxes on vehicles! I'd have to about a grand annually to register my Tacoma in Connecticut if I lived there, based on its current value.

    One member from Virginia commented on this thread that the tax on vehicles there doesn't help residents at all.
     
  14. Jan 12, 2018 at 2:11 PM
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    El Duderino Yeah,well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    For what you proboly paid for your house it’s equalivlent to a studio apartment here. I can’t wait to move to the mainland. Town house down the road from me just went for 585,000.
     
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    Jesus. About 79k for 1500sq ft on 1 acre bordering a stream.
     
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    It's not all about you, it's about community. Yes, you and I may have a very good awareness of what's right or wrong with our vehicles, and we take care of them. But those inspections are designed for the 95% of the people on the road that just get in and drive every day... The people that don't know that their brake lights aren't working, that their tires are nearly bald, that they're one pothole away from a CV joint letting go, or that their brakes are at the end of their lives. And how does it benefit you? Because you might be the one they would have hit because you didn't see them because their lights weren't working, or because they skidded through a wet intersection, etc. Maryland doesn't have annual inspections and you should see some of the deathtraps that are in use on our roads every day.

    As for the beer thing... that's a local philosophy thing. PA has its own ideas about that stuff, whether its holdover puritanical thinking or a tax/revenue thing. I don't know. Again, get involved. When I grew up in PA no one would have ever dreamed that pot might someday be legal. But now, hey, more and more states are going that way. It's all because people chip away at old thinking. It takes time, but people voting and being active really can effect change.
     
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    Free love is good, too. And yes, I know "Live free or die" is NH, but I was referring to the similar philosophy up in ME. :thumbsup:
     
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    Another big problem is that the state inspection system is a total conflict of interest...

    Inspections are done by the very same people who profit from fixing vehicles. Some of my friends have been blatantly ripped off and charged for shit they didn't need.

    Luckily, I take my truck to either my dad's independent mechanic or my local dealer for inspection, and they are both pretty honest...

    If Pennsylvania suddenly abolished annual safety inspections, I would not be upset. I can see why these inspections are important, but why not do them every two years like Virginia?

    At least my dealer gives me a free loaner, but with my dad's mechanic, I've got to drive my mom's car for a day while my dad takes my truck to work (mechanic is next to my dad's work). I've got to take my dashcams and all my other shit out of my truck, and it's just a big once-a-year pain in the ass that's completely pointless in my opinion!
     
  20. Jan 12, 2018 at 5:07 PM
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