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Simple Clutch Mod

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Dillypoop, Feb 4, 2018.

  1. Feb 4, 2018 at 2:52 PM
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    Dillypoop

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    Nope. Hated the spring that much. And for the cold, I live in Texas so it's never really cold. I've ran my mustangs like this for tens of thousands of miles and i've never noticed a thing. Acts like every other vehicle on cold mornings. A little sticky / jerky but will only last for a couple miles.
     
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  2. Feb 4, 2018 at 2:54 PM
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    Now if we can only get someone who's off warranty already to try the accumulator bypass as well
    ...
     
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  3. Feb 4, 2018 at 2:56 PM
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    hum, interesting. Curious also as to how hard it is to get back in. I live in Utah and have noticed on cold mornings the clutch is very slow to return after being depressed.
     
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  4. Feb 4, 2018 at 2:57 PM
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    Ya, will be curious to hear how the pedal response to cold mornings
     
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  5. Feb 4, 2018 at 2:58 PM
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    What is this accumulator bypass you speak of?
     
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  6. Feb 4, 2018 at 2:59 PM
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    really looking forward to hearing more of y'alls feedback. i have to wait a day or two before i can check this out.
     
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    Our clutches have this extra device in the hydraulic circuit between the master and slave cylinders, called the accumulator. What I gather is it acts sort of like a shock absorber.. I'd like to take that out of the equation too at some point.
     
  8. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:00 PM
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    Pardon the lack of understanding here, but the purpose of bypassing it would be?
     
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  9. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:03 PM
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    firm up and clean up the feel of the thing. make it more direct and less hydraulic and buffered.
     
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    Well, to get rid of any potential for mushyness in the clutch. A bypass could be as simple as disconnecting the pipe fittings from both ends of the device and inserting a bypass pipe with fittings instead (then gotta bleed the thing). Anyway, it wouldn't be hard to put it back to stock if a guy didn't like the result.
     
  11. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:06 PM
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    What he said!

    And maybe a bypass would also help with the cold weather performance... just spitballing that one.
     
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  12. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:09 PM
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    So, having thought about this for a second, there's only two things that could cause this "sticky" feeling. If it is in fact this spring, the temperature does affect the spring rate. As the temperature changes, the spring rate will change; therefore changing its feel. The other is the hydraulic system. Like anything this also can be affected by heat. Though not as much as metal.

    My thinking is that removing it will have no negative effect on the "sticky" feeling. Maybe It'll get rid of it. I'll leave that to the people actually in the cold!

    I also noticed you can disable the clutch start feature very easily on these (aside from the button you'd have to press every time you start). It's just a pressure sensor to the left of the clutch pedal (with blue mark) as shown in the attachment:

    Clutch Pressure Sensor.jpg

    I personally like this feature and will not disable it, but for those of you who would like to always do it just keep this depressed and no more clutch start!
     
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  13. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:13 PM
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    DO you notice your pedal rattling around now that you have the spring out? My pushrod freeplay was waaay out of adjustment from the factory, there was a pretty good sized gap between the master cylinder rod and the clutch pedal. If the spring wasn't holding the pedal assy out I'm pretty sure it would rattle and dance all over on rough roads....
     
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    No, I haven't noticed. I also keep my left foot on it instead of the dead pedal most of the time anyways. It's only in one direction and for a short distance so I can't imagine it'd be that annoying. At least not more than keys dangling or other stuff bouncing around in the cab.
     
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  16. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:21 PM
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    Yeah, and in my case I tightened that gap up quite a bit because I had an annoying click when shoving the clutch in.

    You rest your foot where now?? :eek:
     
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  17. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:24 PM
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    Lol, I rest it on the clutch pedal. Not enough to actually engage but enough to where it wouldn't move. I move from there to the brake with my left.

    Resting it there is just a habit that somehow transferred from my enduro riding. Keeps me on my toes!
     
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  19. Feb 4, 2018 at 3:49 PM
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    Question for ya, since you're in the footwell quite often...how much lateral play do you find in the pedal? At the toe, not at the pivot.

    Anyone else for that matter wanna chime in? (Shit, that's almost a thread hijack which I dunna wanna do)
     
  20. Feb 4, 2018 at 4:39 PM
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    You mean from fully extended to the "engagement point?" Meaning, where the clutch starts to engage? If so, it's about .5" cord length. From fully extended to where its touching the floor is about 7".
     
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