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Simple UCA debate

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Chukwithak, Nov 24, 2022.

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  1. Icon billet with Delta Joint - $925

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  2. SPC - $700

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  1. Nov 29, 2022 at 12:22 PM
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    Brian422

    Brian422 I fell into the pit that is TW

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    If your talking about the inner bushings and not ball joint you are correct. Thats because they are a flex joint and do not require greasing. As far as other options yes there are other options such as uniball arms but really unneeded unless your rock crawling big boulder fields or whooping dunes every weekend. The SPCs are a good grey area to handle all types of terrain for the average consumer. I cant recommend JBA;s as bushings i have seen on many friends trucks fail regularly. and arms bend. Also fitting larger tires would have been much harder with them as they are not as adjustable as the SPC's.

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  2. Nov 29, 2022 at 12:24 PM
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    Brian422

    Brian422 I fell into the pit that is TW

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    SPC is a flex joint so greasing is not needed
     
  3. Nov 29, 2022 at 12:33 PM
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    Woah, what a shit show this thread turned out to be.
     
  4. Nov 29, 2022 at 12:40 PM
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    Over 2 years on my spcs. Love em. And customer service is top notch. They sent me a brand new pair when I thought my uca bushings were causing a clunk. They had new ones to me within a couple days. Still using the original ball joints with 0 issues.

    And the issue wasnt the ucas; it was from a little play in one of my coilovers.
     
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  5. Nov 29, 2022 at 12:58 PM
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    SPCs are ugly. I have no first hand experience here but reading this banter makes me think SPCs are the High Point Arms version of UCAs. Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit.

    I’ve heard terrible things about Icons CS.

    If you’re looking for a boxed uca, look into DirtKing Fab. Clean, no nonsense proven design. If it’s good enough for hard hits in the desert, it’ll be plenty strong enough for you.

    Same can be said for Camburg.
     
  6. Nov 29, 2022 at 4:26 PM
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    MGMDesertTaco

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    Pros and cons for each. CMC seems inevitable no matter which uca you choose even if you go with 0 offset wheels and an adjustable uca (JBA, SPC, Accutune). For me I think I've narrowed it down to Camburg's x joint, Camburg's uniball with caps, or Accutune's UCA's.

    https://camburg.com/shop/suspension...ma-05-performance-x-joint-upper-control-arms/
    https://camburg.com/shop/suspension...1-25-performance-uniball-upper-control-arms2/
    https://accutuneoffroad.com/product...ol-arm-kit-heim-joint-ball-joint-2005-tacoma/

    Now I just need to make up my mind on n98 or stage 1 u402 deavers to pair with fox elite 2.5's. I can't wait to be forum bashed on my final decision. :rolleyes::crapstorm:
     
  7. Nov 29, 2022 at 4:31 PM
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    gudujarlson

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    CMC for what? 285mm 33’s? 35’s? I have skinny 33’s and no cmc. I had to have it aligned properly with the SPCs to get to 100% no rub.
     
  8. Nov 29, 2022 at 4:43 PM
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    285/70/17 17x8.5 -12
     
  9. Nov 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM
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    Your pokey wide tires are at fault, not the UCA. :)
     
  10. Nov 30, 2022 at 6:58 AM
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    Have you ran our UCA with that wheel/tire combo and needed a CMC?
     
  11. Nov 30, 2022 at 10:03 AM
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    I have not. In fact, I haven't pulled the trigger on any of that suspension stuff yet. It would be nice if there were a list of wheel/tire combos that didn't require a cmc with specific uca's. ;) Of course, a cmc isn't the end of the world. :sawzall::welder:
     
  12. Nov 30, 2022 at 10:11 AM
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    Ok, just trying to avoid rumors being started.

    For our UCA, here are the notes we have in the installation guide:

    Wheel/Tire Combo Notes:
    Due to the variety of manufactures and options we cannot guarantee every tire and wheel fitment. In general, tire sizes up to 285/70/17 have fit without the need of a cab mount chop. The bumper and other related parts may need to be trimmed for tire clearance. Wheel offset recommendations: 17x9 wheel, 4.5” backspacing.

    We have had great success installing our UCA with this tire combo without the need for a cab mount chop. We have not had the same results with other options out there, which is why we developed our own UCA.
     
  13. Nov 30, 2022 at 10:36 AM
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  14. Nov 30, 2022 at 11:35 AM
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    Just wondering but im assuming that is no -offset on wheels and is that good for full bump too or just cruising around town?
     
  15. Nov 30, 2022 at 11:37 AM
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    Wheel specs wont have an affect on suspension travel or ride quality.
     
  16. Nov 30, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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    I was talking about wheel fitment as its concerned to it rubbing on body mount.
     
  17. Nov 30, 2022 at 12:11 PM
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    I see, you mean full lock steering. With our recommend specs, the tires will clear when cycling the suspension fully. We tested this by removing the spring from the coilover to get a true full cycle in the suspension, not just in the parking lot turning left to right. Minor plastic fender trimming may be required, but no grinding/welding on cab mount.
     
  18. Nov 30, 2022 at 12:14 PM
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    Nice, sounds like a good option then for those not wanting to go any bigger in tire size and wanting something with the guess work taken out.
     
  19. Nov 30, 2022 at 12:19 PM
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    This exactly, shop recommended and installed SPC's last year. after only 6k miles the ball joints were noticeably loose and the bushings already had play and made noise when going over small bumps. never again will i buy spc's. what a joke. I've been looking into JD Fab because they use OEM bushings which I think is a good idea for longevity.
     
  20. Nov 30, 2022 at 12:28 PM
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    I ran my spc for 4 years and 50k miles (did regular maintenance on them) ran the truck hard double locked not once had an issue with looseness or play.
     

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