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Slider Questions

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Chickenmunga, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. Sep 4, 2009 at 1:32 PM
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    Chickenmunga

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    I'm trying to get myself educated.

    First off,
    -I'm going welded. Saves some cash and I'm keeping the truck until one of us is buried.
    -I'm just starting in offroad stuff, but I want the sliders to be tough as nails. It needs to protect me from my stupidity :p;)
    -For that matter, it needs to protect me from other people's stupidity!
    -I haven't seen a slider on here that I didn't like, but I'm more partial to rounded.

    Questions:
    1. It looks like sliders are $200 - $600 by themselves. Why the big price difference?

    2. How much should I expect for welding labor?

    4. Do I need a lift beforehand?
     
  2. Sep 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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    tacomaman06

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    getting there....
    1....price differences range differently depending on material........brand,etc. demellos are hella expensive......but are awesome......my revenge-fab's are awesome...but relatively cheap...comparatively anyway.

    2...welding labor depends............im guessing anywhere between $75 to $150 or so.

    3....not sure where that one went.

    4....no lift needed to have sliders.
     
  3. Sep 4, 2009 at 2:16 PM
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    Janster

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    Most sliders are made by smaller shops that deal only in offroad fabrication.
    Like tacomaman said...price can & will vary depending on where you get them, materials, overall design, & quality of fabrication, etc.

    Welding labor also varies. I'd be VERY VERY careful where you go to get sliders welded on. If you're not careful, you could pay big bucks and get the worst weld job that won't stand up to offroad abuse.

    Also - HOW they are welded to your frame can make the difference between paying $50 and paying $150. You wanna make sure its welded & gussetted and has plent of support to lift the entire weight of the vehicle by the sliders. If it's a poor weld job, it could rip a hole through your frame. Frame material isn't very thick....
     
  4. Sep 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM
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    Chickenmunga

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    Yeah, I watched that. Just a guy stretching beyond his capabilities from the sounds of it, but I'm not taking chances.

    There's a spendy (but very good) welding place south of me a bit, or I could look at Leonard's.

    What do you guys think of Beefed Taco's stuff?
     
  5. Sep 4, 2009 at 2:59 PM
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    getting there....
    beefedtaco makes some nice looking gear man.
     
  6. Sep 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM
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    When you do get something going, maybe we can meet up. I'm also in B-ton, and I'd like to see how they come out as I'm starting to look around myself.
     
  7. Sep 4, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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    Chickenmunga

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    Any time. Just know I tend to take a long time making a decision :p
     
  8. Sep 4, 2009 at 7:23 PM
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    BeachBoy

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    price difference is from material used, and profit the company wants to make...

    see little things that makes a better slider like this from stubbs:
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    http://stubbswelding.com/hdsko.htm

    try to find another slider with reinforced ends like this..
     
  9. Sep 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM
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    snowgod06

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    crap bolted and welded together....
    id be down to also, i live in junction city, about 12 miles north of eugene
     
  10. Sep 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM
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    ay i was wondering can u use those for side steps...??? Or is that a bad idea...??
     
  11. Sep 5, 2009 at 5:32 AM
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    It depends....

    On my previously owned 96 tacoma, I had Demello Square tube sliders with the dual tubes. I covered them with herculiner and used them as steps all the time. They were awesome. They were square and were level and were great for stepping on.
    Here's a pict:
    http://www.lieblweb.com/cpg/albums/ToyotaTacoma/1996Tacoma/normal_133.jpg
    And here's the website on Demello to order them
    http://www.demello-offroad.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_21&products_id=44

    Most of the sliders that you see are round tubes and they bend upwards a bit. Not exactly the best (or flat area) step.... I've seen some round-double tube sliders with diamand plating welded to the top to make a flat surface for stepping on. You'd have to do some research - if there are other options.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2009 at 7:10 AM
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    Good thread with lots of info. Some thread here also stated that Demello's weren't that good. Those were the first ones I was thinking of getting, like the look and the location is close to me. They are pricey so I'll be waiting on the next group buy.
     
  13. Sep 5, 2009 at 7:42 AM
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    ETAV8R...i believe the thread youre referring to mentioned demello's bending up into a fender and causing more damage than they prevented...

    i dont have demello sliders...however...im a firm believer that any product will fail at some point

    that one incident is the only one ive heard of from demellos stuff

    pretty much most of the slider designs out there could have the very same failure as there are no legs on the very ends of any of them...and if you land a truck on the end of one...theres a very good chance that any of them would do the very same thing



    im also a firm believer in over-building things...hence why my sliders are .120 wall DOM tube with 4 legs spaced apart enough to get the outside 2 legs as close to the ends of the sliders as possible
     
  14. Sep 5, 2009 at 3:16 PM
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    Thanks for the feedback and info guys. I wasn't bashing Demello. They are still in the running for S L I D E R S which I will get at some point.
    :mudding:
     
  15. Sep 5, 2009 at 3:20 PM
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    Hey thanks all for the good thread. I'm in contact with one of the forum members who might be cooking up something for me :stirthepot:
     
  16. Sep 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
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    Thanks guys... I think I might just settle for the n-fab steps intead... Cuz I have 5" of total lift... And the sliders come up a little and I want it more for a step anyway...?? Thanks again...
     
  17. Sep 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM
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    my sliders have 5 legs, I haven't seen a model with 5 yet... I have slammed them on rocks and they never budge.

    I use them as steps most of the times, my girlfriend all the time.
     
  18. Sep 5, 2009 at 4:31 PM
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    Thanks... Do u have a lift..??
     
  19. Sep 5, 2009 at 4:34 PM
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    And how do u lie your camburg UCA..??
     
  20. Sep 5, 2009 at 5:08 PM
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    I bought the shrockworks they are hardcore I used them acouple times all ready. They are boltons and you stated that you want weld ons. I think you should take a look and save the cash to have so one put them on.
     
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