====>SLIDERS<==== 2nd Gens

Just got mien from 4xinnovations. they look awesome, now i just half to weld them together and paint them. any suggestions on what i should do for paint?

 

I want a pair of these for my AC cab.

 

Rustoleum black spray paint. Used for years without issues on all my vehicles - sliders, bumpers, racks, rollbars, differentials, frames and skid plates. Available everywhere. Inexpensive. Easy to use.

Light etching of metal, if needed.
Prime.
First coat light.
Second and third, moderate.
Forth heavy.

Touch up as needed down the road.

 

HOW much for my 2012 AC?

 

Drew and Chris, I was just down at the 4xInnovation shop last weekend and Adam measured up my 2012 TRD OR Access Cab for bolt-on sliders. I think he is using the DCSB as the base, and modifing the mounting plates to clear the body mount. He has to redesign the plate and send it off to the laser cutter.
It should be ready in 2-3 weeks for a final test.

I asked him about paint, and he recommended POR 15 primer and topcoat. You can overcoat with what ever else you like. I'll probably use bedliner spray.

 

I am so glad I found this thread. I am currently in the market for slider. Iam thinking of getting the All Pro's considering they are local and don’t haveto ship them. Does everyone seem satisfied with they’re All Pro sliders?

 

This thread seems to be missing what is arguably the highest quality slider made for the second generation Tacoma, the Slee Slider.





These are a bit spendy, but they feature laser-cut frame reinforcements. They fit around every rivet, bolt, and bracket on the frame perfectly. The bottom bolts are recessed to prevent damage to the heads. They're welded air-tight, they can be used as air tanks for an OBA setup.

http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/tacoma07_sliders.htm

 

Looks like a nice product but I certainly would not pay that kind of money for them.

 

I did and I gladly would again. It seems like a small price to pay to protect a $30,000+ truck. :not sure:

Besides, since the installation required no drilling or welding, if anything catastrophic happens to the frame long-term, as it did with the 1st Gen Tacomas, Toyota won't be able to deny my claim due to something that "reduced the structural integrity" of the frame.

 

+1

Comparing the Slee product against Dwreck's, there appears to be a nearly 1:1 comparison (* = advantage):
(Everything else being roughly equal):
Dwreck = 1/4" plate. *
Slee = 3/16" plate.
Dwreck = 9/16" bolts in six locations. *
Slee = 1/2" bolts in five locations.
Dwreck = not-quite-full plate, with just enough wrap-around to bolt onto the underside of the frame.
Slee = full plate, with full wrap-around. *
Dwreck = bolts not recessed.
Slee = bolts recessed. *
Dwreck = offers full line, offers customization. *
Slee = offers only DCSB, (don't know about customization, as I have not contacted them).
Dwreck = can add filler plate if requested. Shipped bare metal.
Slee = filler plate already part of the product. Shipped powder-coated.
(* goes to personal preference here)
Dwreck = roughly half the price of Slee. *
Slee = roughly double the price of Dwreck.

And as far as the wrap-around plate, or the full-length plate: There is certainly a weight consideration to be made, and that needs to be considered against the advantage a full plate with full wrap-around might provide. It seems as though the protection offered by Slee doesn't warrant the excess weight that amount of metal will add.

It may just be me, but it seems as though Dwreck is offering roughly the same product for roughly half the cost. (I'm picking on his product because his is the only one that comes close in comparison to the Slee, based primarily on the mounting plate).

 

x2....lol....that's a couple hundred shy of what I paid for great sliders and a great plate front bumper.

 

I think that's a pretty good comparison, but there are a couple of discrepancies here.

Slee Sliders fit both DCSB and AC models, but no, as you mentioned, there are no DCLB or Reg Cab models available.

Slee's use 5 x 1/2" bolts + optional 4 x 5/16" recessed bolts.

In regards to the weight added by the wraparound plate, that is partially offset by going with the 3/16" plate vs the 1/4" found on the Dwreck sliders. I am of the opinion the extra protection of the wraparound plate is in fact worth the minor weight penalty, but as noted it's just my opinion.

As for the price, the Dwreck DCSB or AC model is $585. Add at least $200 for a quality powdercoating job, and you're at $785. Plus the optional removable filler plates with hardware and integrated nutserts -- $50, $100? This brings the prices of these two products a lot closer than you alluded to. Roughly double/roughly half price is a serious misnomer.

Out of curiosity, are the Dwreck sliders able to be used as air tanks for an OBA system if so desired?

Finally, it appears the Dwreck sliders require an advance order with a nominal lead time before production. The Slees are on the shelf and ready for pickup/shipping. Advantage Slee. (Maintaining an inventory does add to the costs of doing business, which is reflected in the price.)

 

There are a lot of options out there from Brute Force, Damello, Avid and Shrockworks, just to name a few, to protect your truck for a lot le$$, not to mention some of the guys here that have made their own. I'm glad you're happy with them and satisfied with the price you paid. BTW, I have a bridge I'm trying to sell

Are you actually planning to use them as part of your OBA system or know someone who is? If you are please post pictures here I'd love to see details of that setup.

 

subd

 

Makes absolutely no sense to put something as critical as OBA hooked up to an item made to hit and drag over rocks. Maybe I'm crazy, but no way in hell would I risk my lockers air supply to be in a slider....that's why they make tanks you can tuck up in safe places. Same can be said with airing up at the end of the day. I would hate to find out after wheeling all day that I have to drive on 10psi to the nearest gas station to pump my tires up. Sliders are meant to take a beating so your truck doesn't. If your going to risk filling it with air why not throw some oil lines in there for a remote trans cooler

 

Dude you need to put IMO (in my opinion), because you stated these are arguably the highest quality slider. IMO there not, first your right, bolt ons are not as strong as weld ons, and with all those bolts and possible drilling that would "reduce structural integrity" and places to breed rust, and those are not very aesthetically pleasing (they look like the plastic topped ones people get), but good on you for finding one that wasn't listed, more options for people. I'm sure someone will like the plates on top, personally I can see those trapping mean mud and debris for me to step in before getting into my truck.

 

Avid

 

I researched the majority of the sliders available on the market in 2009 when I purchased these. IMO, none of them, to include some of those you listed, compared to the construction and attention to detail found in the Slees.

I'm not a fool with my money as you accuse me of being either. I haven't spent a single dollar on useless cosmetic upgrades for my Tacoma; I have only spent money on items to either increase capability or functionality, and I only do so after researching with due diligence.

I'm not currently using mine for an OBA setup, but it is in the longer term plan.

Where to even begin with this? Air is not a critical system component as is the transmission fluid you noted. I do not have air lockers; I have the factory e-locker. It would take a substantial blow to puncture the nearly 1/8" wall thickness (.120) of these, and that's a risk I'm willing to take. Even if I actually were to catastrophically damage one or both on a trail, I could still use the compressor sans onboard tanks to air the tires to a suitable pressure for highway use. The tanks just make the process quicker.

I do not need to add IMO to the post. I already qualified it with the term arguably. Notice I did NOT say they were definitively the highest quality slider on the market.

Per Merriam-Webster's English Language Learner's Dictionary:

Adding IMO would qualify me for a staff position at the Office of Redundancy Office.

You are arguing to the strength of sliders, not the quality. My assertion to the quality is to the fit and finish and the level of design detail that went into these sliders. They're not simply a piece of pipe cut to length with some legs and L-brackets like many others are. Furthermore, I don't feel weld-on sliders or those requiring drilling have a significant impact on the structural integrity of the frame if installed properly. I would just prefer not to have to get into an argument about it with a dealer or Toyota of America if anything were to happen well down the line. I plan on keeping this truck until the wheels fall off.

Aesthetics are subjective. The filler plates are removable, although the sliders pictured are probably an earlier rendition that didn't include this feature. I don't have the mud issue you mentioned for a few reasons. First, I'm not a big mud guy. Second, the terrain in my area isn't really muddy. Many of the trails are primarily decomposed granite, which doesn't behave like clay and other soils. Finally, I still run my factory mud flaps, so they help prevent my tires from kicking what little mud I may come across up under the slider.

That being said, there are some things I dislike about the Slees. I don't care for the side tube; it sticks out just far enough for me to brush my pant leg against it if I'm not careful, but they don't stick out quite far enough to be a suitable step to reach something on the roof or located overhead. I also agree the looks are close to that of a cheesy plastic step. However, I was more concerned overall with the level of protection offered, the reputation of the manufacturer to develop a quality product and stand behind it; therefore the looks took a back seat. It also didn't hurt that the day I decided to purchase them I was able to do so with no wait or advance notice required.

 

op the East coast gear supply sliders are weld on.

 

ha these look really nice