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Snorkel or no snorkel?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Fred d, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. Aug 5, 2018 at 7:38 PM
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  2. Aug 5, 2018 at 7:54 PM
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    Speaking from a 1st-gen perspective, the stock "fording snorkel" behind the passenger fender, is as high as I'd allow water to rise up to, which is say fender flare tops max. I'm sure Toyota had the ECU and such in mind when they engineered that thing as such.
    Second, I did the "elbow mod" on mine because that fender forder and its elbow are restrictive. If you're gonna add all that extra snorkel to the already existing restrictive fender forder, I'd also do a "deckplate mod" so when you aint balls-deep in puddles, you can open the plate up and enjoy a freer air flow, especially when showing that snorkel off at the malls.
     
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  3. Aug 6, 2018 at 6:03 AM
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    Hit up the young guy on this forum , don't remember name, thats rebuilding his 1st gen after water intrusion. A snorkel wasn't his problem.
     
  4. Aug 6, 2018 at 7:01 AM
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    It was actually designed for dusty conditions not water. I can tell a differance with it on. On second gens if you removed your fender liners the intake sticks right above the tire through the inner fender. Its easier to flood the engine than you think, atleast on the second gens
     
  5. Aug 6, 2018 at 7:26 AM
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    Will do, from the ones I’ve seen first hand, there is some gapping where the fender flares out. But you just fill it with black silicone
     
  7. Aug 6, 2018 at 9:48 AM
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  8. Nov 1, 2018 at 2:42 PM
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    I just picked up an ARB Safari SS170HF on Amazon Warehouse deal listed as "Used - very good" but the description makes it seem like it's new with damaged box. I have bought several things like this and they have usually been new with damaged box, so I took my chances. $354.26 with tax shipped. If it looks like it has been installed / used, I can still return it. After reading this thread, I am undecided if I'll keep it.

    I did just drive through Death Valley and was following some other tacos through thick enough silt that I had to stop in the dust cloud and wait several minutes in order to see more than 2 feet in front of the windshield. Once I got back to "town" and filled up the gas tank, I removed the AFE dry filter and banged it on the ground and so much crap came out of it, which reminded me that a snorkel would have helped a lot with this. I don't often drive with other people, so now I'm wondering if I should cancel my order and just keep stock with the nicer air filter (and spare in the tool/parts bin with me on trips).
     
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    Watched a buddy of mine nearly hydrolock his 2nd gen because of this...he cut the fender liners to fit 35's and didn't cover it up, we all went through a big puddle on one of the trails we did after a rain and he sucked up a bunch of water and stalled. I thought for sure he locked up the motor but luckily after we removed his air filter (which was soaking wet) and let the truck sit for a bit, it fired up after cranking for awhile. He bought a snorkel the next day lol.
     
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    Does a filter not clean the air?

    Primary function imo is deep water crossings
    Even then I'm sure there's a lot more work getting truck capable of water crossings than attaching a plastic snorkel to your intake!
     
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    That's why the primary function of a snorkel is clean, cool air; not water.
     
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    The main reason you get cleaner air is your intake is no longer in the wheel well. The tire kicks up a ton of dust which will clog up your filter faster. Additionally, the higher intake location prevents larger particles from entering the intake; they are too large to make it up that high.

    As for water crossings, I did one that was deeper than expected, and I ended up with water/mud halfway up my air filter. That and the dust reduction made it a no brainer for me with how cheap the hilux snorkel is.
     
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    Snorkels weren't designed for that reason, you said it yourself - there's a lot more that goes into making a truck capable of water crossings. Snorkels pull cleaner air from higher above the ground rather than all the dirt and debris that the stock intake pulls from the wheel well.
     
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    just seems like the term "snorkel" indicates there is water
     
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    That's why Toyota calls it the "Desert Air Intake".
     
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    That was a name given to them after the fact I believe and it stuck. They weren't originally designed for that purpose but if you build the truck to cross deep water regularly then a snorkel is a must. But even if you don't do water crossings, a snorkel is a great tool for pulling cleaner and colder air for the engine.

    I monitor my air intake temps regularly since I'm supercharged and since putting the snorkel on I see a good 10° difference in lower intake temps. Every little bit helps especially on a 1st gen since our superchargers aren't intercooled. Intake temps can skyrocket especially in the summer.
     
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    Does anyone have input about snorkel performance during extremely heavy rainfall, say a hurricane or something similar? I managed to stall my old F150 during Matthew a few years back, and that was driving on non-flooded highway.
     
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